Chaos and/or White Scrolls Obtainable through mobs.

This is generally a discussion thread about the idea and what the community would think of something like this.
Of course there wouldn't be a massive influx of the item as things like drop rate and where they drop can all be adjusted accordingly.

I believe this is a good idea as I hate just waiting to get lucky to be able to scroll end game equipment. I like being able to put a bit of effort in myself to find the scrolls i use. I don't want to just vote everyday while barely playing just so i can amass all the scrolls i need.

I don't really have a for or against argument, I just feel like it would make a decent addition to the server instead of relying on gachapon for the end game scrolling.

 

Absolutely not. The game should not be made any easier than it already is.

 

Chaos scrolls do drop from Lyca.

 

With everything pretty much based on luck, its hard to gauge the difficulty of the game... It could be hard to some and easy for others...

The only boss which isnt really farmable.

 

you dont have to get lucky to scroll and end game equip. just work hard and buy the white scrolls with your mesos

 

Getting end game gear that is decent is still all based on how lucky you are, no matter how you spin it, its not based upon how much you work, maplestory has never been about difficulty, just how lucky you are. I would love this idea personally but of course the rich will say, "No, keep it the way it is."

 

It's not about rich people saying no, it's not healthy for the economy to make things easy, everybody is already given free NX every day which has a huge impact on the amount of ws and chaos scrolls there is.

I have worked for my level and for my equips which I bought since my scrolling is pretty bad.
To me it just sounds like you are lazy and don't want to make the effort it takes.
I can guarantee you there isn't many high leveled players here that hasn't made an effort into their items and characters.

 

Luck also factors into how many white scrolls you need to buy...

I'm generally just asking for different ways to obtain ws's. Theres nothing wrong with more options, and i dont necessarily believe it would make the game easier if the drop rate was the same as it was in gms or even lower.

 

Yep. Lemme tell ya. It's all luck. Game of luck. Cause most of those perfect equips running around the server were just lucky 10% X7. Yep.
And I didn't make any effort to build a godly character on other servers. It just happened that way.

 

Also, your poll is not fair. Just because someone does not want Chaos/WS added to mobs does not mean that they automatically think the whole game is perfect.

 

There's the "other" button there o.o

All i'm suggesting is that there should be alternate ways other than gachapon or buying them. grinding for 4-8+ hours doesn't exactly sound easy for me for one chaos scroll. There are more efficient ways you could use your time. But the option would be there.

Personally I would prefer to see only chaos scrolls get dropped as it was like that in the original maple story and its part of my nostalgia.

 

A "No" button would be nice though. Which version(s) of GMS were you playing? Cause now I'm wondering why Chaos drop in some server, and only some.

 

"no the game is perfect as is" meaning its fine as it is without chaos/white scrolls dropping...

I played around v55 up until mechanics, on and off. I remember hunting drum bunnies for chaos scrolls.

 

Not true at all, making end game gear in this game takes a tremendous amount of time and dedication, and that is no luck. Sure someone can gach 11 white scrolls in a row and they'll hit gold mine but realistically that would never happen. While I dislike rng in every game, I think it's good to have because it prevents the game from becoming too stale and predictable. You may have spent 20bil perfecting a claw while someone else may have only spent a measly 5bil because they got ridiculously lucky but that's part of the fun. Chaos scrolls are also really interesting in that it can increase and/or decrease the stats of your equipment making it a huge risk vs reward decision. In most mmos your character progressively gets better as you put more time into it but in this game because of chaos scrolls, you can potentially lose progress and even go backwards, which for a game like maplestory is really necessary.

Going back on topic, I strongly disagree with making chaos/ws droppable from monsters even if the rates are extremely low, the game is easy enough with the daily 8k nx and as Andreas said above, it's not healthy for our already inflated economy.

 

There are already plenty of white scrolls and chaos scrolls in the game. You just have to work hard to make your gear. Sure there are some people who have made godly gear very easily due to luck cough cough kevinjai cough cough. But on average it takes quiet a bit of funding to make good gear. Atm it would cost on average around 20b to perfect a weapon. Imo that's ridiculously cheap. You have to remember that we are talking about end game gear here. It should take a tremendous amount of work to attain those type of items.

 

lol

 

Honestly farming at gobys for 4-8 hours for enough money to buy one and farming 4-8 hours at some other mob so it could drop doesn't sound very different at all... It really isn't that big of a change, and its something that was in the original game. (Chaos scrolls only)

I'm not make them drop from every mob, because then there is always a chance of getting one no matter where you farm. Thus making the prices drop. However, they should drop from the mobs they originally dropped from,

 

The problem isn't how long it'll take to farm them, it's that these items will become available from sources outside of gachapon. Overtime this will slowly but surely bring down the price of these scrolls because there'll be more of them in the market. It's actually very different farming 8 hours to have enough mesos to buy 1, than to farm 8 hours hoping 1 drops. In the first scenario you're not bringing in anything new to the economy, it's simply an exchange of pre-existing valuables but in the second scenario, you are. Not only that but by making these scrolls obtainable through monsters, it'll lower the value of nx which I don't think anybody here wants. It's easy enough already that we get 8k nx everyday from doing nothing (voting) but on top of that, guaranteed leafs from horntail, a boss that is frequently killed nowadays.

I've always been one that preferred things to be hard rather than easy, challenge makes things more fun even if that challenge ultimately boils down to luck, so you can see why I'm against this suggestion.

 

The point is that it took me two years of playing this game to make enough money to scroll, buy and make the items that I did. Some people get lucky, some people don't. Raising the availability not only is MASSIVELY unfair to the people like me who had limited markets for Chaos and White Scrolls and, early on, had to fight and be the first one to get to the person who gached these items, but it devalues having perfect items and godly chaosed gear, along with @IntervisioN's point about devaluing NX and devaluing Gachapon as a whole.

Some servers give away these items and it results in people with absolutely ridiculous items. Can you imagine this server where people started chaosing Zakum Helmets, Tops/Bottoms/Overalls, using Shoe Jump on Facestompers or chaosing job specific gloves for 20atk+stats? Because that's what happens when you make Chaos Scrolls too easy to get. We are already at the point in this server's timeline where people have started to try the things I mentioned earlier... but only for one slot, two max. Can you imagine if Chaos price dropped? People would be Chaosing for 30atk gloves and 50+ stat top/bottoms.

Chaos and White Scrolls have absolutely no place being obtainable anywhere else than where they are currently. Making them easier to get is BAD for this game, not GOOD.

Those players you mentioned with amazing items, they didn't get them by being lucky, not one. The people who are truly at or near endgame have been through just as many if not far more bad luck phases as you have and the reason things ended the way they did is because they've simply put more time in than you have.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing white scrolls drop from a higher end boss mob ala Lyka at similar or lower rate but I don't think its needed in anyway.