Would you ever want to see leech nerfed/gone from the server?

Ahh. I'm not going to go through all that again, but there are a good amount of grinding areas 135+.

 

Yes because I enjoy challenges, yes for me. I personally don't leech and won't, but if anyone wants to do it, it's their choice...

 

Mind explaining how mp washing works then? As far as I know, you don't need to level up at all for mp washing, only for regular hp washing.

My opinion is true, believe it or not all bosses have different gimmicks.

Yes, making a bishop and leeching yourself does takes time and effort, but the point is that no game should be like that.

I still believe it's completely possible to do PB without washing though, even if it's way more difficult. If they don't want to add full ap resets, just add wheels of fortune and a 3 hour time limit like in Zakum.

And sadly, Mapleroyals is actually one of the easiest private servers out there. Nobody would be making a bishop and restarting their high level night lord on a server with 1x rates and where you get only 1000nx per vote(Like a certain other server out there).

 

Oh, they will be when their server's at that point in its life cycle and everyone doesn't suck anymore. Once upon a time on this server, even having 8k hp on a ranged, 20k hp on a melee was unheard of and meant you were probably one of the richest on the server. Being able to 1hit skeles on a Bishop? Good luck doing that before 200. Your Anego duo timer was 15mins? Godly.

The natural progression of time on a server moves from the point where people are forced to do things without the advantages of time (very little leech, low damage characters, no buff mules) to the point where they can (where we are now). Every server that doesn't die from the disease that is bad administration/community gets to that point, no matter how easy or hard it was at the beginning. And every server becomes more or less the same if they can reach that far.

 

If it's such a bad thing, please feel free to play on those servers. Don't compare us to somewhere else. No one is forcing you to leech or be leeched. No one is forcing you to hp wash. I don't understand why you're complaining and comparing us to other servers and then saying we should add things to accomodate you. When we self leech to accomodate ourselves, (in my case anyway, since I don't sell it) you try to make it sound like a sin.

 

Makes no difference to me if people want to buy/sell a leech service. If people have the to burn on it, sure! The only issue is the possibility of scamming but that's a different beast entirely & we have threads dedicated to such.

 

For someone who had a Dark Knight at lv 126 for almost year and a half, you're mistaken. Some classes can do fine without having a bishop by your side. Take Himes for an example, having a mage/priest pull the mobs to you is the dream. I helped them, they helped me.
And what about washing? Had no issues with that. Sure, I was weak for my level but it was enough to make progress over the months I came back.
There's no impossible in possible.

 

You people are all nitpicking small positive points about leech because all of you have played with it for so long and found it enjoyable. I understand that.

But the bigger picture question is, "Would the entire community benefit from having leech nerfed?"

How would you feel if you leveled a 120 DK, NL, BM, ECT. and realized you should've made a bishop first and that you time you invested in your character is essentially wasted?

That is what I want to know. Can the removal of leech / washing benefit the entire community by encouraging other aspects of the game such as questing / grinding?

BTW out of curiosity, is a server wipe possible in the new source? And if so, who agrees with it?

 

I don't think you could prove having leeching removed would benefit the community either way.

If you want to do super bosses in any game it often requires a vast amount of planning and preparation. Unless we become a big bang server the issue you have with having to HP wash is pretty much unsolvable. Removing Leeching would just make the frustration you currently feel more widespread when it comes to building characters. It's also extremely unfair to all the people who made Bishops/Archmages with the intent to use their 4th job skills in order to build other characters, far more than the limited time it took to get your Drk to 120 and find out you couldn't do one boss.

The game has been out for well over a decade at this point. The Bishop branch in general has been the most efficient and popular branch to make in this game since 3rd job was released. HP washing has been developed for years and the requirements are all public knowledge and have also been for years.

If MapleStory had one thing in common in every pre-big bang version is it didn't cater to your ignorance. Building a character blindly has always been extremely punishing.

If you intended to ever Pink Bean, you should have known what was expected of you.

 

You're nitpicking at the small negative points about leech because you do not want to make your own mage, at least the way I see it. Sorry if that interpretation is wrong, but it certainly seems that way to me.

I made three non-mage characters with a combined level of about 450 before I leveled my Bishop past level 50. I quit my first character, an IL mage, at like level 52 in favor of my first non-mage. I don't feel my time on any of those characters was wasted in the slightest and plan on finishing the two that aren't already complete in the near future.

I think the majority of people who have posted in this thread so far has told you that their opinion is no, it wouldn't benefit the entire community at all. It wouldn't HINDER it, it would just make some things unnecessarily hard/essentially impossible. Removing content to encourage other content seems ridiculous to me, but that's just my point of view.

It's absolutely out of the question, and I'm fairly certain if it were polled server wide, we would be overwhelmingly against it.

 

@leoye123 Removing party exprience in a MMORPG is like playing solo in CS-GO, where your team are all russians.