Extremely Late Introduction

Discussion in 'Introductions and Farewells' started by Succubus, Nov 7, 2015.

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    This is rather shocking but, hello Andy & welcome back to the community! :) Everyone makes mistakes, give yourself a chance & be happy always! :)
     
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    i dont appreciate liars.
    your apology summed up in one picture
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    You may not like liars, cheaters, and thieves, but unfortunately the internet is full of them. MapleStory private servers are notorious for stealing their players' account information and using it for personal gain. On top of that, who knows what kind of people would misuse the data you openly share with them. What you're asking is people share their name, age, personal attributes, and even their location or else they become liars themselves. While I've now come to believe that the staff wouldn't do such a thing to their players, that wasn't the case when I first signed up. Even now, there's still the possibility of some creep building a file with everything you shared online, and frankly I'm not comfortable with it.

    I also hope you realize I could care less about being appreciated, let alone be recognized. I lied who I was which meant I understood that whenever someone thanked me for helping them, it wasn't actually for me. I did my best to keep a good reputation because I hoped that it would inspire others to do the same. If I wanted the praise and attention, I would have volunteered for a meaningful cause in real life, but that's not the case.

    I lied about my identity and am not sorry for it. What I'm sorry for are the things I did to hurt people while behind the mask which is why I decided to post this thread. Everyone can keep calling me a horrible person and I don't mind taking the criticism if everyone else benefits by being brought closer together, but rather than approaching the situation in a level head, they're attacking me while I'm exposing myself. I'm not looking for players to trust, respect, or even like me, but they will have to work with me.

    Nothing will ever be accomplished if we let favoritism keep us from being objective.
     
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    Or you could just say that you dont feel comfortable with sharing these things about yourself and hope that were open minded enough to understand that ?
     
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    Yes, that may have avoided the situation to begin with. I chose the wrong way to go about keeping my privacy and the lie developed into something much bigger than it should have. What few people seem to understand is that I don't know everything. I don't always have a plan nor do I want people to believe I'm some omnipotent person who can always make the right decision.

    I am human. I am a person who doesn't have the luxury of consulting multiple people before I even join a server and while all these suggestions would have put me in a better position to speak, they never occurred to me until people brought it up. If I had the opportunity to go back and take one of these suggestions, without hesitation I would have.
     
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    From an outside point of view, I didn't really know you when you were active in the game and wasn't on staff at the time of your incidents. What I can say however, is that from what I saw, you did you best to help people in the server, be it your friends or new players. PlugDj (rip) was always run well and I enjoyed those sessions a lot even when I wasn't online in game.
    If you're willing to start from the bottom again, and understand why some others have ill feelings towards you due to what you may have done then I unyieldingly welcome back you to royals and hope that you enjoy the server without the pressure of hiding behind a mask.
     
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    #1 rule of royals: always a dude until otherwise proven
     
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    Definition of SUCCUBUS
    : a demon assuming female form to have sexual intercourse with men in their sleep

    assuming female form

    assuming female form

    u guys rly surprise?
     
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    The reason I'm not forgiving you is because you still haven't apologized for everything you've done. You left out a lot of more recent things that, to me, are worse than a lot of the stuff you've apologized for already (although of course I'm none of the people really affected by what you did behind your guise, so I can't begin to know where they stand on it).

    You brought this on yourself. Everything you've done, you chose to do. And none of us have to forgive you for what you've done. I'm saying that with a level head. I'm not attacking you. I'm simply stating truths. Do not try to make us look like we are attacking you, when we are simply pointing out that we will not forgive you. You are not the victim here. Not to some of us.
     
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    To the people who's previously posted, I didn't specify any names, so please don't assume I meant you. I spoke about how I felt and nothing more. As for not apologizing for everything I've done, I'm confused what you mean by that because I haven't spent much time on the server up until recently. Is there something you know that I don't? Like I said, I'm willing to make it up to the people who give me a chance, but don't expect to be forgiven.
     
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    You know exactly what I'm talking about, and I gave you the advice to come clean about everything, not just the parts that could be spun to look nice. So now, you don't get any more chances, not from me. Amending what I said the first time I posted here... you've lost my trust and respect, for good this time. Welcome back to the community. I sincerely do hope this time goes better for you than the last.
     
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    I have NO IDEA what you mean. The only thing I can think of to convince you and everyone else I'm honestly trying to set things straight is to show complete conversations with anyone I've talked to and list the times I can remember even being on MapleRoyals lately, but that would be intrusion of privacy without their prior consent.

    I came to you for the advice on how to make things right and swear I've posted everything I thought of and am disappointed I couldn't have figured out what you were referring to. I also can't believe after the explicit details I shared you thought I twisted the story. I'm seriously asking what it is you're trying to get me to admit and you can even message me privately if you don't want to say it yourself.

    I am not intentionally hiding anything from the community.
     
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    man people fall for the gender bait so easily. either way welcome back. it's not going to last long but welcome back.
     
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    As a long time lurker that doesn't know you personally at all, I have to say thank you for the reality check. My therapist is always telling me something to the effect of "don't assume other people are living perfect lives, you never know what's really going on behind closed doors."

    I found myself really admiring you from a far. How can someone be so nice? So creative? So popular?... etc. I wanted to be someone like you. Someone that brings the community together and has a lot of friends because they are genuinely nice and helpful. Someone with a creative eye (your graphic art), cute NX, and a level 200.

    But this is just another reminder that no one is perfect. Thanks for reminding me to be more grateful... I've got to stop envying other girls(?) online.

    I wish you luck if you decide to come back and be yourself.
     
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    Some of us males can really accessorize!

    As a male, I do believe I have a good sense of fashion for my girl characters on Maple. I always enjoyed making Girl characters for that one reason. The ability to accessorize cutesy things like I never could before.

    I say this all the while watching a Football game, drinking a bottle of Labbats, sitting in my chair in my Boxers eating a couple sausage links scratching my beard.

    Maybe im just weird. Probably that
     
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    Bro, so true, I agree with that! So many bois flirting in royals with no evidence.... HUEHUE
     
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    Andy, I'm very glad for you that you finally felt able to come out as yourself.

    As you already know, it doesn't make any difference to me if someone is a guy or a girl and whether they use their real name or not, as long as they're not doing it for what I'd consider to be really underhanded reasons, such as pretending to be another (reasonably well known) player or pretending to be a girl in order to get guys to give them all sorts of freebies. It didn't bother me in the slightest when Ashlee/Sivir turned out to be a guy. It did bother me a lot that he turned out to be a hacker who got into the staff under false pretences. I hate it that such a disreputable person had access to player account details. But the guy/girl thing? Naaaah. I just take people as I find them, based on their personality and the way they treat others. MapleStory is an MMORolePlayingGame, so I'd be a lot more surprised if I didn't come across guys playing as and/or pretending to be girls - or vice versa, for that matter.

    What does bother me is that you're responding to Mike like you don't know what he's talking about. I don't know exactly what's going on there, but for your own sake and for the sake of those around you, please face up to whatever it is and deal with it, because it sounds like you're just going to be hurting yourself and others if you don't.
     
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    My apologies for this really late reply. I've spent the longest time thinking about what else I could have done wrong since I've been back and will be posting it below. @Michael if I'm still missing something, please let me know.

    The day I came back to MapleRoyals I started chatting on the shoutbox again. It was when Matt was playing around with the settings and added the font color button. I changed my original purple font to my favorite shade of pink and acted like nothing changed. I then started posting on the Male vs Female thread as a "ghost" when I wasn't ready to admit to the community my secret. On the last reply I made on the thread, I said something along the lines of not being allowed to post as a ghost so I wrote female instead, without considering the consequences. The last thing I did on the forums before posting on this thread was delete all the posts related to my fake persona. I figured because I couldn't have multiple forum accounts, I should start over without the lie. I wasn't about to hide by changing my forum name and even if I tried that, it wouldn't be the right thing to do.

    While away from the forums, I let my anger get the best of me and spoke to a friend in private about forcefully taking back items that used to belong to me. Prior to that I had PMed the person who had them kindly asking for some items back and got a reply that really hurt me. My limit of keeping calm was completely broken so out of rage/sadness I tried to convince my friend that they weren't for the person to keep and tried to justify scamming them back. Thankfully, I was talked out of it.

    Truthfully, it's been hard for me to fall asleep the past week because I can't stand it when my morals are constantly being questioned. I spent countless hours every day trying to figure out what else I've done wrong because I wanted people to see that I was still the same person as before. I wasn't lying about my personality or how I felt about things. I still speak the same, love making art, music, helping people, and purple.
     
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    @Succubus - As far as everything that I have read in this post, it all seems so familiar. I'm new to Royals, but I can remember this situation happening so many times in GMS back in the day. I think what bothers most people about lying about names/genders is the close relationships that are formed in Maple (no matter how lame that sounds). Some people feel a type of violation from someone that they grew close to and trusted under false pretenses. For example, when I first started Mapling way back in the day, I got really close to a guy named Jimmy. Admittedly closer than we should have. And it turned out that he had a live-in girlfriend the entire time. Needless to say, it ruined everything we had and he quit playing shortly after. And while I agree with @Katsuruka and this is a "role-playing game", at the same time, the relationships built are real and are with real people, and I think that should always be taken into account.

    All in all, I'm just being nosy and sharing my thoughts on a topic that has nothing to do with me. And honestly, would the nostalgia be complete without this sort of betrayal? Weird thing is that I kind of got the impression that since most of us here, now, are older and that because of that, this kind of nonsense just wouldn't happen.
     
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    It's a little late but Welcome Back. I mean I'm not gonna lie about how I feel. And I'm not gonna say what but I was genuinely upset about the things you did/told me.

    Just wanted to let you know. But um yeah welcome back.
     

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