1) Party seduce doesn't work. That is a fact. It makes it easier, but that doesn't mean it works properly. Seduce is also random so the first person that enters doesn't get seduced, which destroys the whole purpose of a seduce mule. I would like to quote Mark when he said "I would like to kill a fully working horntail." No one wants to take the easy way out and kill a HT that doesn't party seduce. Especially when its the only boss we are looking up to at the moment. 2) The graphic bug hurt 3/4 of the party when we went in, with various people on MAC and Windows, either Chris or Matt can confirm this if needed. (Chris was on Windows and used to DC). I personally DC'd on MAC and WINDOWS 7. 3) Justin just said he tested heroes will and it works. 4) AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE REAL HORNTAIL not the pre-heads. Black wyverns are not suppose to be spawned at the REAL HORNTAIL till later in the phase and not at the beginning. -soure (http://labyrinthems.guildlaunch.com...d=353433&sid=b66925f859fde591208f0b12c40bc9c7) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And i'm simply just listing bugs that I HAVE FOUND. I see no problem in this, and I suggested something entirely different from you. You suggested a real party, and I suggested beta testers. And are you saying that you have fixed horntail as a staff member? Because prove me wrong if you guys have tweaked with it. I know for a FACT this information is true, because i've tested it myself with 10 other people. I posted these bugs four months ago in the bug report section, if they have been dealt with, wouldn't they be moved to the "approved/fixed section", instead they have been left unreplied. So i'm not safe assuming. All i'm trying to do is help out by posting bugs which I have found since you and matt asked if anyone had "actually tested horntail". And I have indeed tested horntail, and this is what I have found. I don't know why the "how old the thread is" is a problem. We haven't changed sources. Are you saying all the bug reports from 4-6 months ago are null and not broken aswell? How is it that "my information" is not true. You are now assuming that something that was bugged 4 months ago has been un-bugged.
Okay... "I don't see how this is a problem" as a comment on Seduce being random. All I've got to say to that is gg lmfao. For real?! Proof? If you didn't notice, the server was wiped and Ty, along with everyone else, thus lost the ability to HT. The server isn't really HT-able yet, so how is he going to acquire this proof you speak of? The few times I tried HT pre-wipe people were d/cing a lot, but the d/cing was nothing compared to the random 'being kicked out of the HT map.' I've seen and experienced both of these, so there you go; 1-1. Or something. I, like Ty, fail to see why the bug report thread being a few months old is of any relevance; the bugs still exist - unless of course they have all been fixed, in which case it would've been wise to mention that at some point [in this discussion]. Bugs don't fix themselves, so it was very "safe to assume" that they are still here as there has been no mention of them being fixed. I don't recall the notice where the staff/Matt said bug fixes would never be mentioned, nor do I recall being told non-staff members aren't allowed to try to help and contribute with the information that we DO have. If HT is bugged, and nothing changes (as far as all non-staff members are aware, anyway), why is thinking HT is still bugged "assuming"? It's the only conclusion any reasoning including some logic would lead to. And yes, staff doesn't have to proclaim every single bug fix, but I would've assumed (heh, assuming again...) that fixing something as major as HT would've been at least - in some way - mentioned. Also, this reminds me of Ali's (AliNicole) rant in FM when she claimed HT wasn't bugged simply because she had no issues whatsoever when killing it in the GM/test server/whatever it's called.
^ Thank you. I digress, I'll leave this thread alone. I was simply trying to state, that while I hear it's broken, I never seem to hear what is broken about it. I was trying to bring that out, and people took it the wrong way. Sorry for any jimmies I've rustled.
Okay so, at this point of the thread- everyone should just calm down and take a breather. <3 (I'm writing this at 7am ish without any sleep, and I beg pardon if my words are somewhat incoherent) I feel that at some point- this escalated into a pissing contest about who was here to witness X bug and everyone forgot the initial focus of the thread- which was... regarding the possibility of easier obtainment of skillbooks dropped from Horntail, which clearly isn't going to happen. (I had to look back 6 pages to see this). Guys we're all here to figure things out D: I'm reading through both sides and at this point I'm confused because GM Annie is seeking clarification/confirmation for what bugs were present but she's getting criticized for her misinterpretation of said bugs/conclusions. (She's just being her normal serious self which could be interpreted as unnecessarily harsh but she's trying to do something). In any case, this is what I know The bugs that were in horntail prewipe were not fixed because while xStre was looking through them, he did not fix them in entirety, because othewise Matt/John would have closed the HT thread. Should we make it easier to get HT books? I really don't think so. Should we focus on fixing HT to the best of our abilities? Yes. And so, I propose this (which Annie said like before Tobi started ripping into her and that was mean btw dude doh)- to all the Pros in the server, HT trial run pls. Kthxbye- the GMs will compile a list of bugs (to see if it's the same as before), and we'll start work on this. ----------------------------------------- /edited after reading through this 7 page monstrousity a 2nd time I've also read about previous concerns about lack of end game content- since Zak gets boring after a while, and HT isn't a truly viable option yet since it's pretty much broken. We're working on stuff atm; that's all I can say without divulging too much. With regards to the skillbooks though;I'm truly quite torn. Because some skillbooks- Gene 30 - are quite gamebreaking if obtained earlier, while others - like Zerk 30- make a class somewhat decent w.r.t damage in higher levels. It's what I call the Boss Conundrum in maple; which I hate. You need the skillbooks which bosses drop in order to kill those bosses effectively (QQ). Thank you for the feedback.. we'll..discuss it among the staff, and update you smexy people.
Isn't the entire point of this that you guys want the easy way out instead of waiting for HT to be fixed?
no? Your making the assumption that HT is only useful for his skillbooks. I was just suggesting to an alternative to a problem which might take months to get fixed. An alternative that would provide an extra goal till new content arrives. I'm going to stop posting here, because Christine explained everything perfectly.
