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    沒有信用卡有另外的方式捐獻嗎
    想要拿donor
     
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    Translation: Are there other methods to get RP if I don't have a credit card.
     
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    找PAYPAL代儲

    但我不認為有一個網站收mesos為手續費(EDITED:服務費)是合法的
    這涉及RMT and its bannable?
     
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    我就是你說的那個網站,
    我這裡澄清,我讓買家自行承擔「手續費」,我賺的是「服務費」。

    我認為就跟買賣 Leeching Service 一樣,
    我的代儲過程也是一種 Service,
    我在賣我的代儲服務,收取「服務費」;
    買家買我的代儲服務,拿出「服務費」。
    我的服務 = 時間 + 精神,是無形的,
    要用台幣或遊戲幣買我的服務,都能自己選擇。

    你說的手續費,我認為是另一回事,
    手續費是你說的「RMT」,手續費是代儲時中間過程產生的必要費用,
    例如:8591 的餘額提領手續費、8591 的 6% 交易手續費、ATM 轉帳交易手續費、PayPal 轉帳手續費等。
    這些手續費,是被 8591、銀行、PayPal 等機構收走,
    所以應當由買家自己承擔,而非賣家。

    我並沒有花自己的台幣,讓買家用遊戲幣來付手續費,
    如果我用遊戲幣讓買家來取代這些手續費;
    如果我用遊戲幣來讓買家少付這些手續費,
    才真的是你說的「RMT」。

    我讓買家自行承擔「手續費」,我只賺取「服務費」。
     
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    我說錯了
    是服務費


    ◎服務費:
    每筆代儲費用服務費為台幣 50 元,或者楓幣 60,000,000 元。 <<<

    LEECH是遊戲中對楓幣皆不涉及現實
    我不知道GM會怎麼定義
    但我也不知道你問過了沒有
    我昨天在你網站說看了你的代儲我就猶豫停下來了

    MESOS(IN GAME) > SERVICE CHARGE(REAL TRADING)
    =
    MESOS(IN GAME) > 50 Real money?

    然而GM有些BAN的message就只有Real trading
     
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    要用台幣或遊戲幣買我的服務,都能自己選擇。

    如果用游戏币买服务,岂不是相等于两种步骤
    步骤一:你卖服务取得台币 (也许合法)
    步骤二:你再将本应賺的台币向你那为服务买家买游戏币 (不合法)
     
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    Also had noticed this

    "本代儲服務之交易方式,絕對符合 MapleRoyals 遊戲條款規定,請放心帳號安全。"

    Which might not be correct.
    If this has been confirm as a RMT, it also mean you might have a mass misleading on those taiwan community.

    "交易成功:69 筆"

    Whether its legit or not in taiwan , keep in mind you must comply with the rules of the place you were at, and it may have some difference to your original country.
     
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    我可以麻煩你們,先把「糾察隊」的眼光拿掉嗎?這樣比較好溝通。

    我再說清楚一點,我沒有花費額外的台幣來購買遊戲幣,
    如果有花費台幣來購買遊戲幣,這樣的確違反遊戲條款。
    我沒有花費真實貨幣來買遊戲幣,是要如何觸犯 Real trading?

    但是,這跟我收取的服務費,完全是另外一回事。
    我的服務費提供兩種方案,這兩種方案(台幣、遊戲幣)是個別獨立的,完全由買方自己決定。
    買方可以依照自己的方便、情況來決定要花費台幣或遊戲幣(二選一)。

    我提供代儲服務,收取服務費,是我應該得到的。
    就像 Cyndy 一樣,她提供了簽名檔圖片的設計,再跟買方收取遊戲幣當做服務費,完全合情合理。
     
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    你想要別人幫你還不用付人家勞動成本喔?
    照你這樣講donate算不算金錢交易?
    用現實中的錢購買遊戲中的點數、點商、抑或是造型.
    還是你當人家開慈善機構的喔?
    阿彌陀佛.....,施主不愧是道德高尚的人,非我等凡夫俗子所能比擬.
    那麼有佛心都給你弄就好了阿!
    整天只會找台灣玩家的碴,你自己是有做甚麼東西?

    收費問題就像cyndy有在幫人做簽名檔收取楓幣一樣,這沒甚麼好講的吧
    你要我幫忙就多付點台幣阿,不想多付錢,也可以啊,我剛好有在玩這遊戲,給遊戲幣我也接受.
    這有甚麼問題?

    屁話一堆ㄟ
     
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    妳在現實世界是不是沒朋友?
     
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    我是說現金與遊戲幣
       服務費的MESOS
    現金>Paypay>RPMESOS>Paypay>RP
    providing the service for 50NT 60m mesos
    關於Cyndy做簽名檔是不涉及現金的


    Again, you are missing the point. RMT can be alot of way, does not limit to buying/selling mesos.

    I miss you too.
     
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    我並沒有在做台幣與遊戲幣之間的交易,買方要給我台幣「或」遊戲幣,提供兩種方案讓買方二選一,是買方的決定,我並不會將這兩個做轉換。
     
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    我不認為有什麼問題。

    1. 我不是 RP 的提供者。
    2. 我負責把買方的台幣,透過 PayPal 系統,轉成英鎊給買方。我是收取這個過程的服務費,服務費可以是台幣「或」遊戲幣。
    3. 買方拿到英鎊後,買方自行到網站登入做捐款的動作,才取得 RP。
     
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    阿不然你去檢舉,看GM們的反應是甚麼
    看GM會不會鳥你
     
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    你去全家繳費的時候有沒有被收過手續費阿
     
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    I was just assumed because 那看起來像是 RMT(我的看法)
    我本來想從fergus's site購買Paypay for RP , 直到我看見那些規則
    我不知道, 如果這個賣家的作為是合法的, if not i would get ban too.

    Just like that, so dont fight or posting nonsense to me, thanks

    我不會去report, nor do i ask a GM if legit or not, its non my business here anymore or buying rp Paypal through that site.

    記住,RULE不是我們說的算,直到GM確認

    No future reply, since the discussion seem to degenerate into meaningless and emotional.

    我很抱歉詢問並介入這項問題,I will get paypal in other way
     
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    從頭到尾都是妳的問題最多吧
     
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    我沒有在賣 RP,我在賣我的服務。
    I am not selling RPs, I am providing my Service, just like Leeching Service.
     
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