sounds like fun. little things like these can help with the staleness of the server and I hope more cool ideas will be implemented
Of course I haven't forgotten the new source. Right now, there aren't nearly as many players on the beta and on top of that, many of them may not even be reporting bugs they've come across, so it's to be expected that there will be a long transitional period for staff support requests. You've clearly noticed, 80-90% of the threads on beta section of the forum are from you. Down the line when the major bugs are fixed, this may become a viable, but I don't see that happening for quite some time. Yes, we have a choice to participate. We also have a choice to spend nx the way we feel, but that doesn't justify the amount of work it takes to implement this, at least not while there are much higher priorities. Also, we have a steady 600+ players at any given time. The poll only shows those who frequent the forum. It also isn't unanimous. Most of the people who commented here haven't given much input as to why they support it other than they wanted a shot at tons of mesos or expensive items at a low price. You can't use 30 peoples' opinions to represent the possible thousands of players we have on the server. In fact, in many suggestion threads, if they were to vote no, most of us would have neglected their input unless they had posted reasons like @inversion & @Meg.
The specifics of how the system itself would be implemented isn't exactly important at this point; this thread is more to simply gauge interest in the idea and find any foreseeable problems that a system may arise. Robb's post about putting in 500k NX to win it all is the reason that people brainstorming the idea suggested a cap for how much NX you can put forward in the first place, for example. To address one thing that's been brought up; we are still very much putting our attention towards fixing bugs and exploitable content that exist on our server. This suggestion is being put forward in response to another potential problem that exists here; the mass amounts of NX Cash floating on the server, and while it is debatable how big of a problem this might be, it's one that this thread acknowledges. If you don't believe that NX inflation is a problem, all you need to do is say it, and give your reasons for why. All input is valuable unless you're mindlessly bashing one another. This idea has a lot of potential, in my opinion, and I'd hate to see this thread devolve into a flamewar and force me to close it. Let us decide our priorities for ourselves, thanks. We're more than capable of doing that on our own. tl;dr: Focus on the point of the thread please. Do you think this idea is worth doing? Why or why not? Debate is one thing, but we shouldn't be talking about bug reports and the Open Beta in this thread.
Why do you say we want a shot at a ton of mesos when the rewards will be untradeable though? Hmm for me it's collection
I said, that is the reason many people voted yes to the idea. Odds are, most people voted after reading the original post and not the comments that follow it. Anyways, I figured we should brainstorm rather than be 100% agreeable so nothing critically wrong happens in the future. If the possible issues that I brought up end up having a solution, there's no reason why this shouldn't be added after the beta is implemented to the live server and support requests are significantly reduced!
I would much rather see this as an automated system where you buy tickets from the cash shop, would require a lot more work but it would work as the intended NX sink, and it would get more people to join. As a forum event I am not very keen on it, and like mentioned that would not be high priority.
Gonna share my thought on this event: The less NX in circulation going to untradable/non-recyclable. Essentially, NX can be summed up as White Scrolls and Chaos Scrolls. The more of those we have going into perfect items and what not, the less of a challenge MapleRoyals becomes as a whole. The limit is 30k. That's hardly an abuse-able amount per person. Even with a 30k limit, I doubt everyone is going to participate and lean towards a more profitable venture like gachapon or more stable profit like AP Resets and Teleport Rocks. Besides, the limit can be raised. Maybe the event can only start once a certain amount for NX has been reached. All the rewards are untradable. They add no value to the economy, but give a net positive to the economy because those could have been Teleport Rocks (forces people to buy from NPC for meso sink) or Gachapon Tickets (less White/Chaos Scrolls). This has nothing to do with hinder new source progress. It's an idea that Jeen came up with and is willing to provide her time and effort into making this a success. This is a great way for new items to be introduced into the server. If people see all the unique rewards that people are getting from the lottery, this will create a huge incentive to cash in their NX, thus driving interest and (I feel) motivate to continue playing.
I don't see why there should be a cap. If someone wants to put in 1m NX, they should be able to. After all, this is supposed to be an NX sink so shouldn't we encourage people to spend all their nx so they don't pump in more WS/CS into the game?
It was already stated in the original post that it would be untradeable items...? This isn't meant to be an NX sink, it's supposed to be an event everyone can join. I would feel discouraged knowing that someone who has hoarded nx for years would be able to pump 1m while I struggle to barely put in 30k. This is for people to be able to enjoy and not take advantage of, hence the cap.
This is a really good point. I think the issue with no limit is discouraging others from joining in the event when they have no chances of winning. EDIT: Ninja'd @Jeen
I personally would love to see it implemented as well into the live game. It was just a suggestion against the "too time consuming" argument. It would be up to us staff to decide when to implement it, but thanks for your opinion. I don't see anything wrong with implementing it earlier than new source as we also work on/implement seasonal events before new source.
@Succubus Bread and circuses mate. Bread and circuses. Since we're online and don't need bread, just stick to the circuses.
I'm not sure why people are arguing that you need to code in a lottery system for this to work. It could just be set up differently. (Just an example that i'm familiar with) 1. @Jeen announces that the lottery is open up & ready to exchange Snowflake(s) for lottery ticket(s). 2. Meet @Jeen ingame and exchange 1x Snowflake for 1 ticket. (up to 30 times) 3. @Jeen adds your name into the lottery list. 4. Sometime later @Jeen announces that the lottery is no longer accepting any entries. 5. The lottery takes place. 6. @Jeen Awards the winner with his/her price. 7. Repeat the process. This would make sure that no one is able to entry with multiple accounts & a lottery system wouldn't be needed to be coded in order for this GM lottery to work. The reason why I chose snowflake is because 1. it costs 1k nx, which was the ideal price for a lottery ticket. 2. There won't be a need of implementing a lottery ticket in the cash shop which would require a wz update. - I kinda feel stupid to even be bothered to write the things above since i'm sure that @Jeen has already thought/will think out a way to handle & execute the lottery without any need of lottery coding or what not. Just because a staff member plans to host a lottery event doesn't make it mean mean that there must be lottery program ingame for it in order to work when you can simply just do the buy-ins phase manually & lottery phase through a program outside the game, like random.org for example. Probaly some bad wording here & there, let me know if I need to re-phrase anything.
I really like @zynzers take on this. This way it would function more as a GM event rather than a new addition to the server. It wouldn't be radical enough to impact the nostalgic feelings of the server, and it would also prevent a log in log off tendency as it could happen at random every select time period.
Like I've said in my last post, the logistics of how exactly the event would work or when we should consider releasing this is not what we really need to discuss. The finer points will be figured out during the development process. This thread is a feedback thread, which means it aims to accomplish the following things: Will this suggestion negatively impact the game? Is this suggestion one that players want? Are there any obviously exploitable facets of this suggestion we need to consider? Is there anything that the OP has not thought of that could improve this suggestion? Please note that those four points do not include when or how the event should be implemented. A post like Plenty's above is a good one; it addresses those four points. Many posts so far are not as useful, despite being well thought out. So, please if you could all direct your attention to doing what this thread is supposed to be for, opinions on the idea that was proposed, and discussing ways to make it better, and stop leaving notes on when to release it and how we should code it, that'd be great. Thanks.
I've done betting pools before with a similar system. As long as people trust Jeen not to scam them (they should)it should work fine with no NPC needed. It'd be a lot of work for Jeen or whomever else to keep track of everything but it's not necessarily hard. Edit: You can use a publicly viewable Google doc to organize it and make it transparent. You given Jeen the NX, she puts your name down and how much you gave. And you could probably use it as a randomizer for the lottery as well.
Off topic: I've done it before when I held a guild gach event. They picked numbers, random.org their choices, and the winner won 3 gach tickets for that day. I then video'd the whole thing so that any discrepancies with what I said could be viewed if people wanted. I also did a weekly 5 ap reset give away with the same method. If anyone needed, they could find Radio members who would attest to this. On topic: Are there any concerns against this idea that have not been addressed? The idea of a limit and untradeable items seems to be a good indication that there won't be a way to exploit the event nor affect the economy. Are there any other possible issues that people have yet to see? For people supporting it, if they could also mention why/how they would participate, it would be greatly appreciated. For example, I would probably always put in anywhere from 1-5k nx minimum. If you would like to participate, how much would you put in? This is purely so that I can gauge what the participation would be like ^^
this would be a fantastic idea, it would finally give me something to do with my nx outside of gachaing regularly +10!!!
