Character Name: TianTianz Last thing you did: Chilling peacefully in Kerning City, and after that hitting few monsters when the server is lagging Why do you think you got banned?: Totally no idea Ban message when attempting to log in: Creampuffs permanently banned albeeee: Far Away Attack What GM banned you (optional): It's my first time to receive ban, so I don't know how to know who banned me.
Is there anyone else that plays Royals with you? Do you play at university, at a friend's house, alone at home?
I used my dorm net to play RMS. Because I moved to school dorm recently. Any problems with that? ( I just wanna enjoy playing RMS in my dorm.
I just wanna make you more informed of the situation I am in now. I moved to the dorm and use the dorm net to play Royals. What I am curious about is that I suddenly got permanent ban. I don't even know what "Far Away Attack" means. I suppose I might be misunderstood due to the regular lag in the server. I feel really bad because I always obey the rules that I even read all the rules in order not to violate it. I really hope that I can get more information from what I have done. Also, is Creampuffs a GM? Who or what is albeeee? In the end, I wanna thank for all GMs' efforts for this server. Without you, this server won't work. I appreciate the experience of playing Royals in the past few months, no matter what the result would be.
Moreover, the account is only for my own use, and there is no one use the same computer to play Royals. I also suppose no one else in my dorm plays Royals.
your character tiantianz and albeeee have been logged in on the same (3) computers and same IP multiple times on jan 26 between 8 and 9 AM servertime.
Sorry, but who is albeeee? Please check who he or she is. I use VPN to break through my dorm net's limitations, so that I can log in MapleRoyals. I don't know if the IP would change or not. If yes, I am not sure if the IP we use are the same or not. But the computer is definitely different! How did GM check whether computers are the same or not? Also, I have read the rules and there is no limitations on using VPN. If you check my log in record, you will find my IP changed a lot, if VPN would change my IP. In this way, you will know what I said is true. However the best way here could be : Just check the computer is the same or not. I suggest. Thanks for your reply!
In addition, if "albeeee" did something bad, what's wrong with me? If he or she is a hacker and did "Far Away Attack", that's not my fault?
I did check that your MAC address and IP address match at certain times with albeee which leads us to believe you know eachother / are the same person
I am not using a MAC. If you have done everything you can, I will find help with my friends to figure out what MAC address is. Then come up with the ways to prove I am not albeeee. But first, have you done everything you can? Did you check my former login record? I believe each time the IP might be different because I use VPN every time.
OK, so MAC address is the easiest way for admin to check. However, it can be changed in numerous ways. Do you think it could be too rough to judge a player only by MAC address? Would you be so nice to check my former login record? May you please see how different albeeee and I talk? I always greet everyone I saw on the street, a hacker or any person who values level so much would NEVER do. I appreciate your time and efforts.
It can be changed but it is highly unlikely it would be changed to be exactly yours. In fact, I've never seen it happen on this server.
It is true that it is highly unlikely that someone would change MAC address as same as mine. Since everything happened after I used VPN, I wanna ask some information here. 1. I started to use VPN this Monday (1/25). Please check if all the login records (TianTianz) are done by the same MAC address but different IP. 2. Tim kindly checked my MAC address and IP, which at certain times somehow match albeeee's counterpart. It means that before I used VPN (1/25), albeeee must use other MAC address and IP to play this game. You can locate him by finding old data. Therefore, if I could prove I was not where he was, then GM could know we are not the same person. I could provide my certificate of enrollment in my college, and my record of class attendance if you don't believe my words. 3. Even after 1/25, albeeee could use different MAC address and IP to log in. Please locate them, and I can prove I am not there. 4. Also, Tim mentioned that we logged in at the same time during 1/26, from 8 am to 9 am. How come I could log in two accounts at the same time? Even if you suspect me using multiclient, how could I move both of them at the same time? I only have one mouse and keyboard. You think the violation was done on my computer, then please explain how I could violate the rules and chill with others. I don't even know how to do that. 5. Last but not least, if albeeee did some bad things, why did GM ban TianTianz? albeeee and TianTianz are certainly not in the same account, and therefore why TianTianz should suffer from this punishment? In the notice I got, it says Creampuffs permanently banned albeeee : Far Away Attack. But I don't have this character in my account. Why my account got banned for a character that is not even related to me? GM should only ban the account violating the rules. I really want to save this account because too many experiences are in this account. Thanks for your precious time to read this and to further investigate my case.
1. You started using a VPN on 25 jan 2016 2. You started playing with two more MAC addresses as well at that time 3. Albeeee's account and character were created on 26 jan 2016 4. He uses spoofed versions of your newly acquired MAC addresses and the same VPN IP 5. You both had a bunch of logins on the same IP within 30 minutes of eachother
Thanks for your thorough investigation. I would like to further ask for some information to know the situation. 1. What do you mean by "You" in your answer 2.? Did TianTianz use different MAC address on 1/25? Did TianTianz's MAC address change on 1/26 compared to 1/25? If TianTianz didn't change, that MAC address is mine. > I ask this because I suppose TianTianz could only log in with the same MAC address, and albeeee might somehow get my MAC address and log in his account to violate the rules. Then if albeeee is capable of getting new MAC address, he could get others too. (In your answer 2., you didn't answer who played with two more MAC addresses, TianTianz or albeeee?) 2. Please locate where and when albeeee register his account, like which region or country, and check if the MAC address he used is the same as mine or not. If not, I would like to testify my solid alibi. 3. In your answer 4., you answered "newly acquired MAC addresses". Because you didn't answer if albeeee and I share the same MAC address and IP in all login records. I would like to ask how many addresses did albeeee and TianTianz use in total? Did albeeee stick to only one MAC address? > If not, then if I were albeeee, why would I change my MAC address to the one same as TianTianz? If you suspect me that I wanna try to violate the rules but leave TianTianz innocent, why would I ever use the same MAC address as TianTianz if I have the ability to change my MAC address. >If not, would you be so nice to locate every MAC address and IP albeeee used? I would testify my alibi. 4. If this albeeee somehow sticks to my MAC address all the time. Could you kindly check the time of every albeeee's login record? As long as he logged in the time I won't be able to login and still used my MAC address, then it can prove that's not me! 5. For your answer 5., did albeeee and I ever login at the exact same time? If yes, we won't be able to move at the same time right if we are the same person, right? Check the talk data, leveling record and people who I was being with. Lastly, why did GM ban albeeee and TianTianz? TianTianz is innocent even though albeeee did do something bad by the somehow same MAC address. Therefore, why not just ban albeeee? Someone might say we might be the same person, then why not ban my MAC address or IP? I know you can, because one of my MapleFriends received that before, which made me so sad and quit MapleRoyals for 4 months. Of course I am not asking for that, but after thinking about this case more deeply, why didn't you do so if you think I am a bad guy? Or at least ban albeeee forever, and ban TianTianz for a week for warning, if GMs still don't believe in my arguments and alibi. What rules empowers this punishment, when, even though it's not true, two accounts would be punished in the same way when one of them violated the rules? Again, if you think two accounts should receive the same ban, why not ban the MAC address and IP? I am now risking my MAC address and IP to prove my innocence. If you ever need me to provide any alibi, these could be testified by my school, my professors and any other records on paper, not by my friends, so that it is convincing. Do my arguments make sense? I hope you would be happy and satisfied after saving a player who obeys the rule all the time and make this game better. For Tim, John, Andreas and other staffs who might be involved : Thanks for your efforts. I know GMs and other staff might get nothing in return but only the change to talk to players and the fun watching players happily play on this server. I have to say sorry for this confusing cases if I have caused you any trouble or have taken too much of your time. Dealing with hundreds and thousands of ban appeal is definitely tiring, but this appeal forum is a place for people to testify their innocence, and for GMs to think more about the ban, so this server would have better rules and proper punishments after confusing cases. Hope you have a nice day, and I wish I could have a chance to prove myself.
Well, thats quite a long argument. Here I thank my professors for they taught me how to write the counter arguments in academic writing. This could be tiring if you read through all. But I would appreciate such a good GM.
Yes, the account that TianTianz is on has two more MAC addresses that have been used to connect to our game with starting january 26th 2016 as opposed to the single MAC address it used before (25 jan 2016 and back) I'm not sure if you know how VPNs work but all the data we can get from it is that the IP address from a VPN does not represent the location of the user nor would we share such personal details with you (another player). Both accounts have three MAC addresses linked to their log-ins, two of which are spoofed versions of eachother. MAC addresses aren't location-bound. Manufacturers of PC's determine MAC addresses and they ship world-wide! Like mentioned before your IP addresses are VPN's which hide a users' true location. (of course you would testify for your own alibi, I wouldn't expect you to counter-argue against it) no you never logged in on the same second, which supports my decision to ban you more than it does yours to be honest. (I believe you logged off TianTianz and went on albeeee a few minutes later to test some hacks after spoofing your MAC) Your chatlog / levelling up doesn't say anything about you playing on albeeee but it doesn't confirm or deny anything so I'm not sure what you're trying to get at with that. We didn't specificly ban you, our autoban system banned albeeee for hacking and anyone else connected to albeeee's MAC and IP details as well (TianTianz in this case). We still think you're connected to albeeee, potentially even the same person so we're not changing your ban to one week. Why would we punish you for one week if you really were innocent? To me that makes no sense. We keep all the related accounts banned until there is destinct evidence of two or more people being involved. What would banning just your MAC and IP do if we believe you have been using VPNs and MAC spoofing to simply get another set of those? it would take you a minute to play again on your account if it wasn't banned with the MAC and IP as well. What could your professors or records on paper possibly provide as evidence to support your alibi? If they support your intellectual abilities I'm even more inclined to believe you are capable of obtaining the knowledge to spoof MAC addresses and use VPNs to your discretion. As of yet I'm not convinced that you're innocent by the arguments you provided. Perhaps you could eleborate what your alibi is exactly since you keep mentioning it?
