I appreciate you taking the time to go over this with me. I actually calculated that I would need about 1,100 washes to finish my Corsair, so your explanation makes it easier for me to reach my goal. I have calculated that I will gain +2114 bonus MP from simply leveling up and having 180 base INT, on top of the MP bonus from INT equips (this is up to level 120). I calculated this level by level, so this is an exact number. According to your math, which looks correct to me, I need 7209 MP to get to my required HP, so after naturally gaining MP from leveling up I will need 7209-2114 = 5095 MP from MP washing. I have been MP washing since level 38, and am getting anywhere from 28 to 30 MP per AP placed into MP, with a net of about +100 MP (+70 from washing and +30 from leveling up) per level after losing -16 MP to reset points back into my DEX. This is roughly 50 levels of MP washing, and I originally calculated that I would need 52 levels to get to my desired HP. There is one issue with what you said, though. When I take points out of MP and place them into my HP I only get +18 per point. Everybody keeps telling me that the value is +20 HP from resetting one point from my MP and placing it into HP, but this is not the case. I should also mention that I have been adding points into INT and have had about +60 INT from equips starting at level 10. [EDIT] Here is a screenshot of the +18 HP
Before I even read this, I'm going to quickly let you know that I edited that post about 5 times in the last 30 minutes, so it might be worth it to refresh your page and read it again.
With my calculations, it will take you about 85 levels of MP Washing to hit your goal by lvl 110. If you add 100 INT to your character, it will only take 41 levels of MP Washing, and it will save you 220 MP Washes. (That's a net of 120 AP Resets, saved). Have you checked to make sure that when you add from MP->HP, that you are actually getting 18HP? The AP Reset UI often shows inaccuracies. It could say that you are gaining 16 or 18 HP, when really, you are gaining 20HP. Check your HP Bar before and after the reset, and see what you gain. Don't trust the AP Reset UI. If you are, indeed, only gaining 18 HP, I'd be very interested in that data.
You are correct. I am indeed getting +20 HP even though the UI says +18. I am currently level 45. Should I just start putting even more points into INT? I was intimidated by putting more points into INT because I thought that adding more INT would be more costly. I have already used 41 AP resets to MP wash, so I guess I'd still be saving 180 resets by adding more INT and starting the washing process around level 70 instead of right now.
Sounds about right. If you take the amount of MP you need, and subtract the amount you will gain from your INT Equips, and apply it to this formula, you will find your Optimal INT value for MP Washing: ************************************ OptimalINT = 10sqrt(MPneeded/11) ************************************ Then add 50 INT to that, because of the -5 net loss that Pirates experience from MP Washing.
Can I for example add 50 points into mp once i reach the int base i wanted and then wash it later on back to luk? Cause i cant fund the ap resets to do that rn.
There is no need to HP Wash and MP Wash at the same time. "Double Washing" is a silly term that complicates things. Every MP Wash requires a LevelUpAP. Every Assassin HP Wash requires a LevelUpAP. Every other class HP Wash does not, so you can use as many resets as you'd like without leveling up. Those three rules are all you need to worry about when deciding when to MP Wash and HP Wash.
I wanted to post here one final time because I think I am done with all of my MP washing. Here's a breakdown of my progress: Class: Corsair Goal HP: 11,880 by level 185 (I changed my original goal) Current level and HP: 87; 3243 HP Natural HP for Corsair: 300(#jobadv - 1) + 22 * level + 380; my natural HP is 2894, and I currently have 3243 HP, so I have gained + 349 HP. This was added to be able to get a Zakum Helmet at level 50. Natural MP for Corsair: 150(#jobadv - 1) + 18 * level - 85; my natural MP at level 185 will be 3695 Minimum MP for Corsair: 18 * level + 118 = 3448 MP at 185; this means that I have 247 natural MP to use for HP washing, or 15 washes, which equates to + 300 HP. Therefore I have already gained +649 HP (+349 from what I have already washed, and the +300 I get naturally as a Pirate from taking as many points out of MP without MP washing as possible) At level 185 I will have 5350 HP without washes, or, by adding 649 HP, 5999 HP. This means I need to get an additional 5881 HP to meet my goal of 11,880. A bonus 5881 HP can be obtained by HP washing about 295 times for +20 per wash, and this requires an additional 4720 MP (16 * 295). My minimum MP at level 87 is 1684. I currently have 6932 MP after MP washing and resetting any levelupAP back into DEX. Therefore I have enough MP to wash all additional HP (6932 - 1684 = 5248). Is this correct? I added a little extra just to be sure, and in case I needed to add a few more HP washes for whatever reason.
From my quick read, it seems to all check out. When I have time, ill check it out again, and if something is wrong, ill let you know
Will I be able to reset my base INT now? I don't plan on actually HP washing for a while because I don't have enough funds to take MP and put it into HP.
If all your calculations were accurate, then you can get rid of you INT now, and just HP Wash whenever you'd like.
I have a question (I only read through the first page): So 1 year ago it was stated as a bug that the additional INT-Gear wasn't calculated when putting AP into MP....has this been fixed yet?
What is the natural HP and natural MP formula for a Bowmaster? I'm lvl 35 with 160 raw int and want to run calculations to see how many levels I must MP wash to have the necessary HP to survive Pink Bean's magic damage hit at Lvl 185.
Archer: #Job-Adv-1 = The number of Job Advances you have completed, minus 1. Natural HP: [{(#JobAdv-1)*325 + Level*22} + 118.5] Natural MP: [{(#JobAdv-1)*175 + Level*15} -46] Natural Washable MP: (#JobAdv-1)*175 + Level - 194
What is the natural HP and MP formula for the Brawler class? I know you don't necessarily have to wash on that class, but want to be able to survive a hit from Pink Bean at 185. @Gossamer
Check out the formulas spoiler at the bottom of the guide in my signature. It doesn't have MP Formulas. But it has "Natural Washable MP" Formulas, which is all you really need.
Hey all, i'm trying to find out if i'm done MP washing and would appreciate it if someone could double check for me. I'm currently a lvl 83 Ranger trying to have the potential to survive a hit from "hypothetical" Pink Bean at lvl 185 which would require 11,880 HP. At lvl 83 I have 2596 HP and 6584 MP. If someone familiar with the washing formulas could just run the numbers again for me I would really appreciate it!
