[Feburary 24th] Showbiz's Prices Guide - Scrolls And More

Thank you for letting me know.
However last time I checked the price for overall int 60% using an owl I've seen plenty of people selling this scroll for about 18M( Checked yesterday).
In my opinion, 20M is a little bit overpriced as more players today have overall int 60%.
I do agree some of my prices are a little bit overpriced/underpriced like GFA 60%/10% which are very common and easy to get (Like @Plenty has said).
Um so I'll update some of the prices today when I get home, maybe I'll add few more non-scroll prices. (Items such a zhelm).

 

I love the comments

 

I just wanted to point out that the occurrence of bulk buying for INT scrolls is rather common. I also suggest for you to keep a spreadsheet of any scroll purchases you find in the FM, so you can refer to it when adjusting prices.

On another topic, I don't see how having more than one "Scroll Price Guide" is a waste. I think it's much more assuring when you have similar price checks from multiple people.

 

I don't see why there can't be another scroll price guide.

Also, there is a small typo in the title and beginning of the opening post: "February 20st" should be "February 20th".

Just thought I'd let you know.

 

Thank you for your help and and support, I'll keep that in mind.
I'd rather to take some screenshots and link them here, this is going to be tough as my laptop's keyboard lacks the "Scroll Button".

Again, I'm really grateful for the support, it really warms my heart .
Thank you for letting me know on the typo, maybe I was too focused on looking through Plenty's guide.

I will update the guide soon, post more prices and make the guide more "colorful" and organized.

 

While i do not mind another scroll price thread, this one is rather inaccurate. There is a constant 1-2m over or under from average price. You've also come during a time of big weapon scroll deflation ie. Cfa and wfa 30 (due to wish tickets). In addition to that statement, the shield for m.attk is also currently skewered due to some desperate person buying them and a few more being purchased daily. There seems to be an overflow so a deflation should come soon.

 

Thank you for letting me know, this is very important for me.
I'll look into these changes and update the prices according to the situation.
Anyway, I'd like to have a talk with you if you can - through a private conversation here or just by meeting in game, my IGN is Showbiz. Thanks !


Notice:Some of the prices have been updated today (February 23rd).
In addition, I improved the look of this guide and made it look clear and simple.
Got any problem with the information of this guide? Contact me in here or in game.

 

I support this third guide (because there were 2 guides before: Plenty and someone who I don't rememer right now). But like some people said, there are some prices that are a little bit lowered (2-3M). Obviously I won't mention because I want some profit xD

Thnx for the guide.

 

Thank you ! I'm trying my best to help new players, my target is to make this guide reliable and updated as soon as possible.
So if you have suggestions, don't keep it to yourself - feel free to send me a private message here,
I want to make sure that every player doesn't buy an item for a higher/lower price than its real value.

Just wanted to mention -

Some people sell this scroll even for 16m (!), so the price remains 18M.

 

This is rare and only for people who need money quick. Normal market price that you would sell it in a store is still 20m. I don't think you should take outliers and try to make it part of the average when they're an anomaly.

You're doing no one any good if you're not even going to consider what people say and what they update you on.

 

Like Jeen said, overall int 60% can be sold easily for 20M at stores. I think this guide would be more accurate than Plentys if your prices are the maximun price possible in a store. I would mention one more example:

Cape INT 60% are 5M at stores. (thats why I'm at FME ch1 buying them for 3M and reselling for 5M each easily)

 

People DON'T NEED AVERAGE PRICES, people need the maximun reasonable price posible at stores =)

 

Also I liked when u say that we don't need a monopolized guide, because Plenty can easily change a price and a lot of ppl who follow his guide just will trust (I know Plenty will never do that, just a hypotetical case). Good luk with this guide.

 

Plenty's guide says that Gloves for magic attack 70% are 18M, thats FALSE. You say they cost 10M, that's fairly correct. But well I tried to sell them for 8-9M for 3 days at store FM1ch2 and nobody wanted them, so I would say they cost 7-8M max.

 

U could maybe add "Clean Work gloves" Because they are very common. In stores they are 1-1.5M each,

 

Teleport rock 2.5M IS OVERPRICED. People sell them in FM entrance for 1.5-2M

 

Hi Jeen, I used an owl now and here are the results:

Spoiler: Overall Int 60% Prices

Ignore the "+"
16.9 *1 +
17.9 *1 +
17.9*1 +
17.9*2 +
17.9*1 +
17.9*1 +
18*1 +
18.3*1 +
18.5*4 +
18.5*5 +
18.6*1 +
18.7*1 +
18.7*1 +
18.8*1 +
18.8*1 +
18.9*2 +
18.9*6 +
18.9*2 +
18.9*10 +
18.9*3 +
18.9*1 +
18.9*1 +
18.9*2 +
18.9*1 +
18.9*2 +
19*1 +
19*2 +
19.4 +
19.4 +
19.5*9 +
19.5*1 +
19.5*1 +
19.9*2 +
19.9*16 +
19.9*1 +
19.9*2 +
19.9*15 +
19.9*2 +
19.9*1 +
19.9*5 +
19.9*1 +
19.9*1 +
19.9*4 +
20*1 +
20*8 +
20.5*2 +
20.9*60

The average price goes for 19M, I've seen some people selling this scroll for under 18M - but that doesn't matter.
Um, I think to sell this scroll quick enough you have to put this on your store for 18M.
I just want to mention that new players need to sell QUICK, they level up quick and need a lot of potions, they change their gear constantly and more.
Another thing is, I don't always look through the seller "EYES", I want to make an easy life for the buyers too, I don't want them to buy these scrolls for 20M each, this is really overpriced in my opinion.
But what do you think?

 

Couple of things here. You need to stop double posting. That's considered spamming the forums. Edit your first one if you have more information to add.
Secondly @Plenty has them for 9m, not 18.

@Showbiz, in my opinion 20m is a fair price and where this scroll has always been. I also think that a scroll price guide should be geared toward sellers, not buyers. Buyers can always owl and find what they need. If there are not many, they can choose to overpay or wait it out. People who sell are the ones who really need a scroll price guide.

 

I can see where's that opinion coming from.
I'll change the price soon although I don't really like the idea of non-changing prices.
20m is still too much and as you can see more and more people join this server nowadays, more people=more scrolls, and I think this is a really absurd idea to keep this price 20M as other people are selling this scroll for 16M.
Thank you for helping me

 

In principle, I'm ambivalent to the presence of multiple guides; I think it can be either a good thing or a bad thing, depending on the execution.

I've seen one person in particular complaining via smega that Plenty was creating a "monopoly" on scroll prices, a criticism which I really think is unfounded. My impression if that guide is that Plenty simply updates the prices based off of the direction in which the market is going. And the direction in which the market is going is based largely on the basic principle of supply and demand. If Plenty were creating a monopoly on scroll prices, what we would see would be Plenty buying every single scroll in the game and intentionally inflating the prices. But that's not what's happening. Personally I'm not going to jump to unfounded conclusions (i.e. "Plenty is trying to create a monopoly") unless I see direct evidence for it, which I just do not see at this point.

In regards to this guide in particular, I'll start with the positives, namely that I like the format of it (very colorful and organized), and that it lists a lot of items aside from just scrolls. So when comparing this one to Plenty's guide, I do like the fact that we have some prices listed here which aren't scrolls.

As for the negatives, I do think a lot of your prices are a bit inaccurate, which is something that others have mentioned. Red Envelopes can sell for 1.2-1.3m now; Wish Ticket prices vary depending on which one (yellow is the least valuable, only being worth 5-10k, while blue is worth up to 40k, assuming energizers are 2m each); I see a lot of Smegas for ZHelms at 65m; AP Reset prices fluctuate from 8.5m-10m depending on the buyer/seller; Genesis 20 can sell for 900m-1b depending on how desperate the seller/buyers are; and so many more. As a solution for this, my personal recommendation would be to, instead of listing a set price, list a price range. In practice, two of the same item will seldom sell for the exact same price, so for an item like Chaos Scrolls, for instance, you could list the range as "300m-330m." This would give a good idea for both buyers and sellers as to the respective price ceilings and floors, and would also allow your guide to be more accurate and reflective of reality.

Another thing that you could add a few more items to some of the lists. For usable items, you could add in Energizers, Red Ciders, Heartstoppers, and many more items. For Etc. items, you could add in Orbis Exchange items, Ores, and Summoning/Magic Rocks. For equipment, you could add in things like cravens, dragon sleeves, deputy stars, brown/yellow/work gloves, raggedy capes, and lots of other things too which play a vital role in the economy.

Also as a footnote: I've read all the replies here and I think if you're interpreting them as "Cyber-bullying," then you should perhaps take a step back and reassess what the thought was behind the replies. Whenever I see criticism of an idea of mine, I always try to keep in mind what Sam Harris calls, "The important distinction between individuals and ideas." By this, he means that criticism of an idea should not be conflated with criticism of a person. In more tangible terms, my point is that people are not criticizing you as a person, but merely providing critical feedback of your thread.