Return of Carnival PQ

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  1. Cynlet
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    ^^^Title
    I can wait if it takes time to implement these things in, I understand. 0:)
    But I just really really want Carnival PQ! I miss it sooo much. The new Maple does not have it (You level past 30~50 so quick anyway)
    Every time I past Philemon I feel sad :'(
    Will Carnival PQ ever return?
     
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    New source hypee
     
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    I feel the same qq.
     
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    Really? Awesome! When will it arrive though?If I'm past 50 by the time it arrives....
    btw off topic I really like your Buccaneer guide, though ultimately I decided to go corsair with my second character...

    Hype~ So Hype! Carnival 1 and Carnival 2 can't wait!
     
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    They're working hard to rollout new source, there is a lot involved. Right now we don't have a concrete date.

    Stay hyped tho :o
     
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    Never.

    Don't think cpq2 is gonna be a thing.
     
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    Once again not accurate and the negative attitude.... ~f7
     
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    I recently stated hopefully within a few months for the new source release. I am also aware that Kevin is very interested in the possibility of us including CPQ2 at some point as well.
     
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    Having a negative attitude towards the new source at this point is 100% fair. It's been used as a scape goat for server issues for over a year at this point.
     
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    I'm not sure if you fully understand everything involved in implementing NS.

    It's not like they just click click upload. Kevin is basically writing the mac client.

    Patience is a virtue brah
     
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    I'm not sure if you fully understand why myself and others are upset about the new source.

    Over a year ago the "new source hype" began. Issues such as the alliance tab,cpq and the unstick button have been pushed aside and excused with the "it will be fixed in the new source" statement.

    I'm not saying that the staff hasn't attempted to fix these things. But it just seems like they have put all their eggs in one basket (the new source) when for the longest time, it wasn't going to be released in the foreseeable future.

    I personally don't play anymore. So I'm not exactly being impatient. I'm just tired of seeing, "it will be fixed in the new source".
     
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    I totally see your point on this. Perhaps it's because I just recently came back that I don't have "new source hype fatigue". But I imagine it's somewhat frustrating.

    Reading the beta post though I really do think they're getting close
     
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    There are things that can't be fixed within this source or at least the work would be tremendous so saying the problems can't be efficiently fixed here is not a scapegoat , like was also said with the Open Beta thread it took more time than was anticipated.
    At least for my 2 years on the server I haven't encountered that many problems, and there have been a great deal of fixes lately, since you don't play the game I don't know if you read the announcements.
    I definitely don't share your opinion of it being used so the staff can ignore problems because that wouldn't be accurate, I have seen more fixes since the announcement of the new source than before it.
     
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    The staff are working hard, this is true. But Canadian I feel is fair in his opinion. It's been a long time. They player base has been increasing so they are doing something right, ofcourse. But for the people who were here all that time ago, it seems like just a dream now. -gaze into sky-

    CPQ 2 tho OP
     
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    You are aware they didn't have to keep the live server operating right? they could've just close it and work entirely on the new source. But no, we have events, we have new content, we have players who are getting banned everyday. I suggest you'd try to code 2 different sources (which are not even on the same version) operate one of them and keep it alive even though it acts a lot of times and leaves you pretty much hopeless and then try to code an entirely new one from scratch and have people complain why it is not ready yet. Believe me, I was here when they announced the new source would be release in 2015. I was here when the server was dying and you had to wait 4-6 hours to get a rewarp. I was here when they banned the first player to reach level 200 (if I'm not wrong) because he was unlegit WHILE the server was dying. Your anger might be completely fair and justified and I can understand it because that's how I sometimes feel, but it's discouraging to say the least and I'm pretty much they're upset about how long it takes more than you are. There are a few things you mentioned that I'd like to refer to -

    CPQ - It's fun, it can be competitive, it's a great source of EXP but it's not important. Levels 30-50 are a really small part of the game, and you also have LPQ which you can party with everyone above level 35, and you also have plenty of bishops leeching up their noobs anyway instead of using it so in my opinion it's not that necessary. If my memory serves me right, CPQ was related to a duping bug. Do we really want a server that is full with duped items just because we want this PQ to work even though we have so many alternatives to it? Try to understand them, they made a logical decision.

    Alliance tab - You're right, it doesn't work. But the alliance chat is working and it's more than enough to communicate with your alliance buddies. In fact, we're probably gonna use it more than we'll ever use the alliance tab so it's not a priority. I know how nice it is to see everything's fixed and all but it's something we can all live without and it's not game changing.

    And please don't forget that this source is so flawed, sometimes a completely new issue arises and they need to stop working on the new source and fix it. These two recent threads are enough to prove my point:
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/server-hardware-failure-26-05-16.66752/#post-344883
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/connection-crashing-issues.65537/
     
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    isn't there any v62 sources with working cpq?? copypaste into royals wym!
     
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    I Understand what you say, but my POV at it is who decides what important and not? what matters and what not?
    For me, not being able to do a good portion of the quests is a pain, and it is frustrating to encounter these sorts of bugs, while some other people really couldn't care less about it.
    For me, not being able to see what Alliance buddies are online and who's not is really annoying and numbs down the fun experience that is being in an alliance (which btw here in this server it's the first time I've been in an alliance in MS). Meanwhile, you and other people don't really care about it.
    The way it seems FOR ME, is that it seems the staff dismisses things as being "not important", or "low prioritized" and being shoved into the elusive new source which has been hyped for years now, and because of this some features of the core game are not working, and we can't know when they will work. it really takes the fun out of Royals for me, and it is the reason I mostly log in only on events, anniversaries Holidays ETC.
    *Disclaimer* : Even with my criticism towards this server, and I have plenty of it as for anything in life, I don't underestimate the staff and really am grateful for the amount of time, sweat and tears they've put onto this project for so long. I support them, and i don't seek out their failure, it's just that I have a different mind set and approach to Maplestory in General and to RMS in particular, and am a bit frustrated with the server after all this time.
    Just my two cents on this topic, and fml I haven't even began to talk about how much I adore and miss the old GMS CPQ days, and how much I'd want to do it right now.
     
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    It's not like they don't care about these features. I can guarantee you that at least of them the does (the same one who works on the new source) and that's more than enough. The reason why they're low priority is because we have the lag and disconnection issues - Okay, maybe this PQ or that quest would work, but what's the point of it working if you can't even log in in-order to use it? For example - They fixed the Mystic Door skill and that's great, but whenever I try to leech at ULU1 I disconnect. These issues are not related, but you can clearly see which one requires more attention. I just think, in my opinion at least, that there is no point trying to fix this source because it is too troubled. While I do hear you about the quests not working like they should, I think that any effort on bug fixing should be focused mainly in the new source. They reason behind this is simple - at the end of the day, this is what we're gonna get, and fixing it sooner means getting it probably sooner. When saying "New source would fix it" new source would actually fix it because there is no probable fix in this version or there are things which are prioritized above it. I do agree with you that we're trapped in some kind of a time loop when it comes to bug fixing and yeah it sucks that we have to wait so long for a few fixes and features that we like but that's to be expected. Just think about it this way - we are closer to the new source than we've been yesterday, last month and last year. If we waited for that long, I'm sure we can survive a couple more months.
     
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    Yes, but they all have dupe exploits.
     
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    I'm new and this is my first private server so I don't really know how many bugs and troubles people go through with this.
    I got to thank the people working on this for making such a wonderful server, I really had fun with this server.
    I can always make another character to 30 ~50 when the CPQ come out! Please take your time.
     

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