Ban Appeal-Hacking or Illegal use of third party

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    Last thing you did: Doing Bigfoot with berzerk hp after server reboot with cider.

    Why do you think you got banned: Hacking or illegal use of 3rd party. I guess the a/b got me. I have been doing/pinning bf like that for a while now, plenty of people witness me doing that and I do not think any of my taken action so far involve hacking.

    What GM banned you: Either the a/b or someone reported me for something that I have yet to be aware of.
     
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    I've been watching you for a while now and it seems quite obvious that you have been using some kind of 100% avoid godmode or wz edits as I've never seen you get hit by Bigfoot's magic attacks. It was not an autoban.
     
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    It is the way of Dark Knight pinning the bf
    Other drk and me did it so that to zerk while being at 30% hp. I can replicate it to you the method and not doing that

    P.S Matt, Please let me know if the decision is final, I can go at any length to prove my innocence. That since day one, I have zero knowledge on wz edits,have no means to do so nor have any needs to do so. Otherwise, there are always other dark knights around that can show you the same way I do BF.I really believe I have a strong case here.

    Here are a few video of the method I spoke of. The Bigfoot cannot get off the wall at any point in time to attack me,let alone missing me. Sometimes, the drk in the video misses his window of attack and the Bigfoot get off the pin, that is when bf can freely do what he wishes until rush/pin back to the wall(@3.50 for the first one and @0.45 for the second one). There are no damage inflicted on the player at any point in time that Bf is pinned to the wall as shown on the video.
    Sorry for the random music btw.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK_xOteI-wE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRtDRcz-7XE
    Thank you for your time
     
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    Alright, I will walk you through some calculations that might make our decision look a bit more obvious.

    Alright, you're a Dark Knight, assuming you got a normal 80 Avoidability, and adding 50 Avoidability due to Berserker, your miss chance should be (against Bigfoot, that is) around 60%.

    Now, I've used a procedure called binomial probability distribution to determine the odds of your event occuring, which would be missing all 15 hits from Bigfoot, equivelant to the mathematic P(X=15) for the following variables:

    p = 0.6
    n = 15
    x = 15

    So, this would mean the following:

    P(X=15) = 4.702 x 10^-4, which is 0.04702%.

    So, the odds of what happened to you are 0.04702%, which is not significant enough to even be considered, leading to the conclusion that, whatever you did, this is practically impossible.

    If you see any flaws in my mathematics, please say so, and if you have a screenshot proving your Avoidability is significantly higher than 80, please show it to us and I will change my calculations.

    Edit: Don't try saying that you never got missed by Bigfoot in the first place; we've got evidence to prove otherwise.
     
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    How much avoid do you have (including that from Beholder?)

    (Ooops, Ninja'ed)

    At 164 avoid (inclusive of Beholder's buff), I was still getting hit by BF's magic attack approximately half the time.
     
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    @kat I gota bonus of 30 avoid from beholder.

    @ marty I do not have any physical evidence of my total avoid. I dont receive miss from BF anyway,let alone 20 times. I get either 1 magic attack dmg,a miss or a fatal 11k dmg(being at 30% hp) if I ever touch the candycane/ feet./. yes, i died plenty of time to bf touching me.

    I do not really know how Matt witness me getting 20 misses bf-ing consecutively because BF is NOT supposed to attack me during the time I solo him.There exists a method as shown in the videos, that I did, that the BF wont get off pin for as long as the player does not miss their window of attacking. The rare chances he get off pinned, he attacks me for 1 dmg/touch me and kill me if I stand too close.
     
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    Alright, let's see it this way: We've got solid evidence of at least 6 misses, and the other ~9 were seen by the GM who banned you. Even taking 6 misses (n = 6 ; x = 6), this would mean:

    P(X=6) = 0.046656 ==> 4.6656%

    Sure, that's a lot more significant, but still...

    Edit: I used 0.6 (60%) as miss rate, and Katsuruka just said it's 50% with 164 Avoidability, which is more than you probably have. Considering that, your miss rate should be somewhere at 40% ish, which would be P(X=6) = 4.096 x 10^-3 ==> 0.4096%, and with 0.5 (50%), it would be P(X=6) = 0.015625 ==> 1.5625%.
     
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    I really am in the corner here. It is deemed that I have wz edited after getting too many misses,15 times consecutively to be specific. I swear of god I dont know one bit of coding ,let alone wz edits. Idk, I do BF for a good 20 minutes and the chances of me getting a miss are greater as Im exposed to its dmg for a longer? Was the consecutive miss happened in a short period of time? If so, the pinning method doesnt allow BF me to get more than 3 magic hit on me each time it got out.That happen rarely as it decreases my dps as such the method of my bf does not allow it to attack me /get off pin until I mess up the rhythm(yes theres a rhytm to spamming crusher). Maybe I got15 hit in by BF IN TOTAK for the duration u guys watched me and all of that were misses? o0
     
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    1) I'm considering 6 misses, which we got SS's of.

    2) The time you're exposed to Bigfoot doesn't matter.

    3) I don't know if it was in a short period of time, but I guess so, yes (Not the one who banned you).
     
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    I was the one who banned you. No, I'm not normally a GM, but as Marty has a lot on IRL right now, I'm helping out for a few days.

    I watched you for approximately ten minutes, and the screenshots I took were largely in the last 5-6 minutes. I didn't screenshot all of the occasions on which BF hit a miss on you (just 6 of them), but I would say that he hit a miss on you between 15 and 20 times, and never once hit you for any damage.

    Would you like to see the screenshots?
     
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    I'd also like to add that the accused has also been previously banned for vote abuse and also ban evading. (Iirc)
     
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    Vote abuse has been clear-ed up by Dustin.
    During the time I did truely got banned, it was for glitch abuse( 3days). At the time, I was duo-clienting and shortly log off the 2nd account after the 1st account got banned. So, no ban evasion either.
     
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    Doesn't matter either way; we disproved your theory of a visual bug, this case is closed. Permanently banned for hacking.

    Thread closed.
     
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    Dexterity, please accept my apologies for the inconvenience caused.
     
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