Hero vs DrK DPS and Bigfoot

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    Hey guys, figured I'd ask here because this server actually has some people that are good with numbers and know things.

    I had a question regarding Heros and DrKs. Does anyone know the relative difference in bigfoot times of a Hero vs a (lvl20 berserk) DrK with relatively equal equipment?

    Also, I was wondering, with all other equipment equal, does anyone know what att and kind (sky ski or pinaka) a DrK would need to out DPS a hero with a 120ATT ST?

    @Plenty @inversion @LuckyLook @Aram pls respond
     
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    With zerk 20 Drk would lose , pretty even with zerk 30 .
     
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    I'd say hero>drk regardless of zerk level. Afaik to hit BF 100% of the time a drk can't hold down dragon crusher. A hero can just hold down brandish while using a dragon claymore, and every single brandish will hit. Hero is ridiculous against BFs.
     
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    I would also like to add that as a DRK player, I do not feel I can zerk at bigfoot at the moment and I have been HP washing so that with Hyper Body I have over 25k HP.

    I have about 10k that I can zerk with and bigfoot hits more than this. Bigfoot can hit over 11k touch damage and as mentioned above you can not just hold down the spear crusher attack as he will be able to hit you.

    In the new source DRK will have 50% instead of the current 40% with zerk maxed, so this may change things, but as you are asking specifically about zerk 20 level DRK's then Hero does more damage.

    There is also this: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/dps-calculator-lv-200-single-target.31606/

    and this: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/dark-knight-what-spear-should-i-use.40025/

    Which show where the classes sit in a perfect situation, and what weapon a DRK should use.
     
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    Drk can hit bf 100%, thats true you can not hold crusher while being on booster.
    But personally I only stop for like 0.50 second ( happens 4-5 times per bf ) , its not really big deal since you don't really miss an attack. You just pay attention to bf frames..
    Even tho hero still a bit faster ( on se drk have better timing , if im not wrong )
    And most heros in rms use a st.
     
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    People usually get a claymore for bfs:p
     
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    i personally think drk will do faster if they know what their doing and have se. atleast when i've turbod with drks before when i playd hero and they would pretty much always kill bf faster than me even tho i used a perfect claymore and had overall better gear than some of these drks. Now i havent calculated this, and maybe im just generally bad at killing bf but even if thats the case they should be very even at the least.
     
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    I killed a lot of BFs before I had 30k HP with HB and the inability to take 1 hit while Zerking shouldn't be a problem if you know what you're doing. It's completely possible to kill a BF without taking touch damage.

    Bigfoot has touch(11k) and magic damage(100). The touch damage can easily be avoided if you have BF aggro. If the BF is aggroed, it will run up to you and stop before it touches you to use it magic attack which deals roughly 100 damage.

    1. Rush the BF into the wall with full health.
    2. Once he's properly pinned just used Dragon Roar twice to drop yourself to 40% hp.
    3. Use Sacrifice if you need to lower your hp further.
    4. The BF should be pinned and you should be able to Dragon Crusher while Zerking.

    If you need to reset the pin go to step 1.

    There were 2 scenarios where I have died to BF as a Drk:
    1.) Server lagged caused the BF to "run over me" because it didn't use its magic damage.
    2.) I screwed up.
    • I was careless or I wasn't paying attention
    • I mistimed my Rush when BF was using its magic attack and Rush didn't push it back. I ended up below BF and it dropped down and hit me when I wasn't full health because I didn't want to waste time using Dragon Roar once the BF was re-pinned against the wall

    Anyways, it's not hard to maximize DPS against BF as a Drk with Sky Skis.

    Ski Skis + Booster Dragon Crusher synchronizes nicely with BF's invincibility frames. I don't feel I lose much DPS from BF's invincibility frames when I am pinning the BF against the wall outside of casting my buffs.

    Usually this is how the "boss fight" progresses for me

    Once the BF is pinned against the wall:
    1. BF runs towards the wall, I use Dragon Crusher
    2. BF turns towards me(Because I "Knocked it back"), I Dragon Crusher again
    3. BF runs back towards the wall, I use Dragon Crusher
    4. Go to step 2

    There are sometimes when this happens

    1. Bf runs towards the wall, I use Dragon Crusher
    2. Bf turns towards me(Because I "Knocked it back"), I Dragon Crusher again
    3. Bf does not turn towards the wall, I Dragon Crusher while it is still facing me
    4. Next Dragon Crusher will miss due to invincibility frames unless you take a slight pause.

    As for Heroes, I don't know what the proper weapon setup is. Does Stonetooth without booster encounter no problems with invincibility frames? Claymore + Booster?
     
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