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    I was off for 10 seconds, which I haven't noticed ANYTHING wrong. And yes, I did F3 them, did it all the time, never been kicked out for that.
     
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    Sadly, the only GM that can hold a decent event these days is Dustin..
     
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    If you don't have anything constructive to say... don't say anything at all...
     
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    Constructive criticism, on the other hand, is welcome. If you feel there's a better way of doing things, please feel free to offer suggestions on how to improve things.
     
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    Apparently, you get kicked if you move. I didn't quite understand it too - but from my experience, they kicked me right after they stopped explain the event / after they asked if someone has questions because I moved and F3'd.
     
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    I haven't been on in a while, so I don't know about any "new" rules. Anyone care to enlighten me?
     
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    It all depends on the Event in question. Let it be obvious that, when the event is Russian Roullette, you should stay where you are when the timer ends. I doubt they didn't mention that...

    Just because GMs have a bit more power with commands, doesn't mean they can control everyone. Of course, it's a GM's job to keep everyone in control and kick those terrorising an Event, but a fair warning is always (or should always be, in my opininon) given out to players violating a rule that isn't of great importance.

    Just as reference: Any idea how many people moved off platforms when I was hosting an event with 60 people? NO ONE can control such masses, unless there's 3 GMs at the event. GMs still have final say in their kicks, and as long as they're justified, there's no problem. But I do think it's a bit harsh, kicking someone for just moving off the middle platform for a couple of seconds during the explanation of an event... But that's just a matter of the GM's way of hosting an event.

    Just my two cents. :)
     
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    Okay, first of all, there has always been a "stick to the wall" rule when doing a JQ or "stand in the middle" for RR. There will always be rebels to test the patience of GMs hosting events (if you go to an event with 50+ people, I will personally dress as a french maid and sing "I'm a little teapot" if you can't find a single person who will try to complicate the GMs by, for example, sitting in a chair to dodge seduce), and you do anything at your own risk. Diana, you've participated in enough events to know the basic guidelines of an event to make their job easier.

    With that being said, you can't teach someone how to be a successful event hoster right from the get-go. The best/most successful hosters to me were Daniel and Lloyd, and seeing as they had been GMs for quite a while already before I even joined this server, they've had quite a lot of practise on crowd control.

    What you can work on is the approach you give to players during the event and outside of them. I have to stay up late in the middle of the night to just be able to participate in an event. We have no GMs that live in the Eastern part of the world, and now that Marty is off, none of the current EU GMs host events at a convenient time for European habitants. And just in terms for practise crowd control, it would be a good idea to host a few events when there's less people online, in which it always is when the NA/SA region is asleep.
     
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    LOL. You never did that during one of my events! :p

    And yeah, I agree with Victor. Every GM has his/her personal way of hosting an event. And concerning the "stand in the middle" rule... New players don't know that, so the GM in question should always say e.g. "Please go to the middle." several times while ~joinevent is open.

    What should definitely be worked on is the timezone dependance of events. Ever since I'm off the team, there are no GM event during the afternoon/evening for Europeans, Asians and Australians.

    I'd host player-hosted events, but I'm not rich enough for that. :c
     
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    If you read the fine print, Marty, I say that I would only do that _IF_ nobody would test the boundaries of the rules and just blindly listen and stick to the wall/middle. :p
     
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    Or we could make you slaves: seduce when you enter the map, being muted all the time. Hope you'll have a great time at the event.

    So that's not going to happen. But please, if you're participating in an event follow the rules by the GM. And know each person is a diffrent human being (yes, even GMs have souls). When an event is being explained it's not a good time to hop onto Facebook, text someone, etc. Because clearly you will miss info provided by the GMs.

    Thank you :]
     
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    Sadly this is true, I've been on GMT +7/+10 for about 10 days playing around 10+ hours a day and i've only seen two events. (including like the few days Marty was still a GM). & I've seen three community hosted events.
     
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    If there are any players who have been with the server for quite a while (long enough to be familiar with how events are hosted), are likely to be online during the time when we need someone to host events and think that they would be good at the job, do feel free to apply! Obviously, you would need to be a GM as well, as Marty correctly points out.
     
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    There's a difference. If you want to be an event host(ess), you'll have to be a GM (at least, that's what was told me).
     
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    I guess you haven't participated in many events, have you? That's what pretty much EVERY GM does when explaining the rules and trying to force people to stay on the left; Seduce > Mute > "any questions?" > Unmute.
     
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    I'm going to respond to this because I was the one who kicked you.

    While GM Lazz was giving instructions for how the event was to function, I had been repeatedly telling everyone to stay at the wall. Every single time seduce expired, people would come running out and sitting in their chairs. After several reminders, I told everyone that there would be no more warnings and that I would begin kicking anyone who was not going to follow the rules. Two people dared to test me after I had explained that, and it resulted in a kick. Immediately after I reiterated that people were going to get kicked out of the event if they were unable to listen and follow the rules, you walked up and F3'd me. If I was not to kick you after a blatant disregard for the rule I had repeated several times, it would have been biased.

    As there are numerous players in these events, it is impossible for us to know if you're busy browsing Facebook, and it is not our problem if you're not paying attention to the rules.

    Furthermore, following up to the threats of a kick for disregarding the rules IS, in fact, a form of crowd control. People actually begin to listen when action is being taken.
     
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    I really don't recall ANYONE for sitting on a chair. I remember someone who did sat on a chair, but he was very close to the wall. And yeah, I didn't want to piss you or anything - I believe that the case is I probably missed your warning, and I'm sorry. I also don't see the logic of sticking to the wall after you ask if someone has a question - I'd honestly move so the GM's will see what I was asking. I don't mind you reinforce the rule, but I'd suggest you to have a little more patient and give a final warning to the same person before you kick him/her. Marty did that, and it was a great idea. I also would like to agree with this statement:
    I'm sorry for the previous comment, I was pretty mad.
     
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    Well back in my GM days I created my own event. I didn't have a name for it, but it shares similarities with a JQ. It was pretty popular but essentially it was my own custom JQ.

    I used orbis tower as a point of reference and would use the powers i had as a gm to firstly make it impossible to kill by granting the mob 1B HP and exp 0.

    The general rule of thumb was to use mobs that have effects that knock you off platforms or made it hard to get on platforms. Sometimes I would use Bigfoot to force you into going into my path or if you were strong enough, straight threw it.

    Typhons served good for keeping you off the platform, so they were almost a staple in my JQ's.

    There were 3 stages, each stage getting progressively harder than the last. Much harder than most JQ's any player has every done. At one point I thought it was impossible to get passed until 2 or 3 players proved their worth.

    Because its custom, you can see how players interact with the monsters. Not only is it a challange for the players to get passed, it's a challenge for the GM's to create a puzzle.

    I might nick name it puzzle quest, but that may not hold true if you don't make the players think.

    So not only do the players have fun but the GM's designing it. That or you can make your own custom map if you have enough privileges.

    It was bar none the most popular GM event on the server. I would also give out a custom title to the winner (I don't think titles are available on this server). It didn't give out any stats that wasn't available on any other title or better than any other title stat wise. It was just a mark of who was the king of the puzzle quest that week.

    After a champion has been chosen he/she won't be able to participate in the next puzzle quest. What will happen is that the next person who wins the puzzle quest would have to face the reigning champion in a 1v1 Puzzle Quest. If a new winner was chosen, the last champion loses his title and gives it to the new champion

    The events were always timed, and announced. If the champion with the belt isn't available for the event then he forfeits it to the winner of the last PzQ. If they were offline we'd remove the item from the account.

    It was really fun :p
     
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    This would require a bit of coding, though... Quite a bit, probably... And let's face it, they have to work on event variety at the moment, JQs only right now, as well as more events in general (especially for comfortable times for Europeans/Asians/Australians).

    Definitely sounds like a lot of fun, though! I'd love to see this in-game, that event, being a fan of puzzles and mazes and stuff myself. c:
     
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    That's not true at all. The last 5 events on the server were Hide N' Seek, Russian Roulette, Physical Fitness JQ, Ola Ola, Zakum JQ. Only 2/5 of the past 5 events were JQs. I don't think that is a fair assessment.
     

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