AP resets dropping from mobs

Discussion in 'Closed' started by mettzi, Apr 24, 2014.

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Would you like AP resets to drop from mobs?

  1. Yes

    15.6%
  2. No

    84.4%
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  1. mettzi
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    If I remember correctly, I read somewhere on the forums that pre-wipe, gach tickets, NX and ap resets would drop from mobs. I completely 100% understand the removal of gach tickets and NX (other than bosses) because it makes white scrolls, chaos and other gach items overly common. However, I don't understand why AP resets were removed from the loot table.

    I don't think that HP washing should be reserved for the rich or extremely patient (voting). However I was not here pre-wipe, so I would like to hear the views of people that were here, whether positive or negative. Of course the views of others are welcome too.
     
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  2. FiteMeM8
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    I like this idea, some people will probably say oh it's making the game too easy, except it doesn't make you any stronger to hp wash, and it's not like nx will become useless. It just makes it easier to do bosses like HT it will be much better because the more ht's the better/stronger anyone/everyone gets.
     
  3. Gags
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    NO.
     
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  4. mettzi
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    Would you care to explain why?
     
  5. Jack :3
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    I think that with 8k nx/day you can do some pretty decent hp washing and the price of them isnt that high anyways...adding them to drop would just make more non bishop/archmage players cry about how unfair it is that they cant farm their ap resets as effectively as them :(
     
  6. seetawbelly
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    HP washing is not a necessity, it is a luxury. Therefore, luxuries should be for those who can afford it.
     
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  7. Gags
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    Plus, it's making the game too much easy.
     
  8. Gi
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    If you understand why Gachapon Tickets and NX were removed, then you can understand AP Resets are the same.

    People use NX on AP Resets rather than on Gachapon Tickets. Re-adding the AP Resets to monster drops would decrease the price of AP Resets on the current market. Therefor people will less likely spend their NX on AP Resets, but rather get Gachapon Tickets. In conclusion adding AP Resets would have the same effect as adding Gachapon Tickets, which you understand being removed.

    So my vote, no.

     
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  9. FiteMeM8
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    Okay so, your opinion is invalid until you can learn English.

    Also Gi does have a good point. I wouldn't mind it being added in, it would just be a lot easier on some.
     
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  10. Gags
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    Excuse me?
    You know what? YOUR opinion is invalid until you will learn how to treat other people nicely. Your behavior is really unacceptable and rude, go work on that before you response to my comments.
     
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  11. Doritos
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    I think he wants to fight you mate.
     
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  12. mettzi
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    I guess I didn't really think that through. I'm sure 8 gachapon tickets a day is far below the amount you could get pre-wipe by killing mobs though, right?

    Regarding the "HP washing is a luxury" comment, I guess I just view it differently. You would still have to farm for the resets, or buy them, albeit at a lower price than now. The market for int scrolls and hp wash gear would still exist. It's not like the market would completely disappear. It would still be some sort of "luxury" to HP wash, just not to the extent it is now. It's not like HP washing increases your damage or anything, it just makes things more convenient.

    However, I'm not here to attempt to change opinions, I'm here to listen to them.
     
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  13. Matt
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    Mages used to sit in maps with a lot of mobs like HHG1 and spam their ultimates all day to farm loads of resets. I am glad those days are gone.
     
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  14. Gags
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    I'm not joking. I will not tolerate disrespectful disses like the one he made.
     
  15. mettzi
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    This is the type of reply I was looking for. One with examples of why this would be bad.

    To be honest I can't think of a way to get around that so it looks like you've got me beat.
     
  16. Afee
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    I wrote a long ass comment before for pro increased frequency and accessibility of AP resets and then realised that it was a bit extreme. Since AP resets are so hard to come by, why not just lower the NX value of them? Say make it 2k NX each.
     
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  17. Bingi
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    There is always the half measure of adding them as mini area boss drops only as a somwhat rare drop (Maybe 5-10%) drop rate. They only spawn every 4 hours so it won't be an efficient way of farming, but it gives a reason to kill some of them on top of the small amount of NX.
     
  18. Marty
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    We're playing a private server here, with higher drop rates, 8k NX per day and a good economy as it is right now. This makes it fairly easy for everyone to HP wash, unless you're incredibly lazy, and laziness (concerning merching and voting) shouldn't be rewarded. As seetawbelly pointed out, HP washing is a luxury. Not to mention, this would make the game too easy and ruin the AP reset market (and the complete economy because of the points Gi mentioned above), with which many new players make their starting capital.

    So a no for me.

    And I also think this
    Is not acceptable, that's just rude in every way. So what? Her native language isn't English, that's not her fault and I'd say her English is acceptable since we all know what she was trying to say.
     
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  19. Kenny1
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    Gags lives in a different country, as for as my knowledge goes, English may not be her primary language.
     
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  20. Chokladkakan
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    The pedantic observer would perhaps make the following remark: few people are incapable of learning English. Chances are the person at hand is amongst the vast majority able to do such a thing, and so it holds that this person's opinion is valid, even by your own arbitrary distinction.
     
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