Night Lord Washing (Target 21,000HP @ 170)

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    Hi guys, I am trying to create a NL and aim to hit 21k HP @ Level 170. I haven't considered other factors yet, such as INT Equipments, '2nd', '3rd' job advancements' hurdles, or maybe MP Washing. I will provide my washing equipment later.

    Let's just assume that I will be leeching my NL all the way till 120 (or maybe 135), then I start using my Utilize AP in the end which estimated about 438 APs (reset scrolls as well).

    Is my planning feasible?

    Also, what is the minimum DEX required in the end? 100 DEX for Red Craven right?

    Thanks guys.
     
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    There is no way you will get that hp within 438 AP resets. You're looking at like 900 resets for just the mp washing + resetting base int. You will of course need more for HP washing itself. For example, if you need 18k hp more to reach your goal, you are looking at about 820-1000 resets depending on if you are able use fresh AP or not. The amount of times you are able to use fresh ap will be limited. The 820 is based on 22 hp avg gain (using fresh AP into hp, resetting into luk). The 1000 is based on avg 18 hp gain (using mp to hp). Realistically you will probably use about 900 or so for the HP washing I think since you will be using a mixture of fresh ap method and mp to hp method.

    MP washing is mandatory for your HP goal and the minimum dex requirement for a craven is 140.

    For comparison, I got 140 base int, and needed to MP wash until 124 to get 18750 potential. However, I also had int equips which brought me to 330 int per level up. You are going to need a more base int than I did to reach your goal depending on what your equips are and I can't really give you a good read on what you need to do unless you give me your current level, current base hp, current base mp, and the int you get from equips.
     
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    I haven't created my NL yet; intend to plan everything out meticulously before embarking one.

    Currently, my existing washing EQs (loan from my mage) are;

    Single Earring +8INT
    Maple Shield +8INT
    Yellow Cape +12INT
    Red Marker +9INT
    White Raccoon +6INT

    Might be also getting the followings;

    Bathrobe +20INT^
    Green Bandana +15INT^

    So probably, total INT Eqs about 78~80? :(

    Let me know if ya need any details. :D
     
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    I'm not quite sure what a thief's base HP will be so it would be easier to calculate if you got your character to level 30 and gave me a base hp/mp to work with. Unless someone else knows what a thief's base hp is, I won't be able to calculate it :x If you do get to level 30 and do the job adv, let me know what your base hp/mp is and I can help you with calculating your needs ^^
     
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    Lvl 1 hp is 50.
    Beginner lvl/up hp gain is 12-16, average of 14
    First job advancement to thief gives 162 hp
    So a lvl 10 thief has an average of 50+9*14+162 = 338 hp
     
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    Alright. I'll level my thief and let you know again. Do I need to consider about HP washing whilst leveling? There was a guide, stating that for thief, it is better to wash every after you level. Does it make any difference if I grind my assassin to level 135, and start using my AP resets altogether at the end?

    Thanks mate! :D
     
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    So far, this is my progress.

    Just a slight query.

    Based on my extrapolation, I am able to hit the respective HP, for the following levels;

    18,179 HP @ Level 140
    • 5,590 HP (Raw)
    • 12,589 HP (Covnerted from 11,558 MP)
    • Remaining AP: 270
    19,066 HP @ Level 150
    • 5,810 HP (Raw)
    • 13,256 HP (Converted from 12,198 MP)
    • Remaining AP: 320
    20,839 HP @ Level 170
    • 6250 HP (Raw)
    • 14,589 HP (Converted from 13,478 MP)
    • Remaining AP: 420
    Could you kindly check if my calculation is correct?

    What should be the best or optimal level for me to start washing everything together, with respect to cost? If so, HP or MP to HP Wash?

    Thank you so much guys! :D

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    Whats your clean hp,mp? (Tip: Open Ap Reset, and there it is)
     
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    5468 HP and 11384 MP respectively at level 139.
     
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    Assuming all clean:
    Lv 140 | 5490 Hp | 11451 Mp | 270 Free Ap | 380 Int Base | 524 Total Int | 2108 Min Mp

    Hp gain from lv 140 to 170: ((22*30)+5490) = 6150 Hp at lv 170 CLEAN

    Since u want 21.000 hp by lv 170: Goal HP - Hp at that lv = 21000 - 6150 = 14850 Hp needed

    Calculate your excess of mp: Mp - Min Mp = 11451 - 2108 = 9343 Mp Extra

    9343 Mp / 12 = 778.5 ~ 778 #Hp washes

    HP WASH 270 TIMES USING FRESH AP

    Step 1: ADD 1 FRESH AP TO HP
    Step 2: USE AP RESET ----------> MINUS MP ---------> PLUS LUK/DEX
    Step 3: REPEAT STEP 2 UNTIL U HAVE 0 FRESH AP (270 TIMES)


    778 - 270 (free ap) = 508 #Hp washes

    270 Hp washes * 22 hp (Average per fresh ap) = 5940 HP | 270 * 12 = 3240 Cost Mp

    At this point u should have Lv 140 | (5490 + 5940) = 11430 Hp | (11451 - 3240) = 8211 Mp | 0 Free Ap |
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    U can reset your Int to 4 at this point

    From lv 140 to 170, u gotta wash with FRESH AP every lv, that will give u around 110 HP per lv just by HP washing. Doing this until lv 170, but saving 1 point at lv 170 you will have 3278 HP more (149*22) | 149 * 12 = 1788 Cost Mp

    At this point u should have Lv 170 | (6150 + 5940 + 3278) = 15368 Hp | (8211 - 6423 + (15 * 30) = 6873 Mp | 1 Free Ap | 2528 Min Mp

    Since u still need more HP to get 21k, you gotta wash with AP resets instead of Fresh AP.

    21000 - 15368 = 5632 Hp needed

    5632 / 18 = 312.8 ~ 313 Hp wash

    313 * 12 = 3754.6 ~ 3754.6 Mp needed

    Mp Free = 6872 - 2528 = 4344 Free mp

    Since more than the needed, u HP wash with AP RESETS.

    Step 1: ADD 1 FREE AP TO HP
    Step 2: USE AP RESET ----------> MINUS MP ---------> PLUS HP
    Step 3: REPEAT STEP 2 UNTIL YOU GET YOUR DESIRE HP
    Step 4: USE AP RESET ----------> MINUS MP ---------> PLUS LUK/DEX

    Take in mind that this isnt EXACT its just approximations

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    COSTS:

    Ap Resets at lv 140 to HP wash 270
    Ap Resets to wash from lv 140 to 170 149 + 1
    Ap Resets to wash at lv 170 to get 21k 313
    Ap Resets to get 4 int base 376

    Total 1109 Ap resets * 8.5m ea = 9,426,500,000
     
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