That's definitely nice to know, but it also opens up "revenge reports". But I guess that's why Robb said "Don't get caught".
I'm surprised anybody wouldn't immediately know who this is, with the toxic way they've been acting recently. I suppose in your case perhaps you assumed people just don't know you very well =P.
I really don't understand the argument here. A precedence was set long ago that account sharing was absolutely forbidden in any form. It has been this way since the server started, and it is rather black and white. There is no account sharing. Period. You can check out the following threads for examples from several months ago where account sharing was discussed: http://royals.ms/forum/showthread.php?t=5353&highlight=account+sharing http://royals.ms/forum/showthread.php?t=4967&highlight=account+sharing http://royals.ms/forum/showthread.php?t=2060&highlight=account+sharing http://royals.ms/forum/showthread.php?t=1435&highlight=account+sharing http://royals.ms/forum/showthread.php?t=3228&highlight=account+sharing
This could also be used as a precedent to the unbanning of 'account sharing' when there is no harm done though. http://royals.ms/forum/showthread.php?t=6309&highlight=respare+ban Anyway, if you just tear apart the rules for a second, and see what happened with Lance. It just doesn't seem like justice, which is why I think the rules should be toggled with a bit. Because he was just unfortunate to get caught up in a rule which was created for a different purpose. To catch people that 'account share' that actually effects other people/gives an unfair advantage. But again, this is just my opinion.
I had not seen that thread before but seems like it is quite an unusual case since he didn't actually get into the account and was banned straight away. So not sure if we can use this as precedence.
Yes, but why? I don't understand why it was "forbidden". I find that rule excessively controlling, and have never agreed with it.
Personally I don't see any difference with this case, since he had access to his friends account, regardless if he could access it or not. Also, from previous threads it seems like only the account in question being shared is the account being banned, but I would assume it should also automatically ban any IP's related to said account, meaning anyone else who had access to it, and all their related accounts. For clarification, could anyone shed some light on this?
I find it strange that people are defending account sharing when not one person has offered a well-reasoned argument in favour of doing so. Resetting your girlfriend's AP for her? Seriously, why not explain it to her? Or if you don't feel you're good at explaining stuff, she can ask for help on the forum, where plenty of HP-washers would be happy to explain the process. GPQ Mules? There's no reason why each person who wants to GPQ shouldn't have their own GPQ mule - you're not limited in the number of accounts you can have, a low level mule doesn't take long to make, and it's something you can take with you regardless of what guild you're in. CPQ Mules? Why would anyone need a shared CPQ mule? Can't do ZJQ? Surely the whole point of having major boss prequests is that you need to complete the challenges in order to be able to fight the boss (or loot boss drops)? The right to fight or loot a boss is effectively a quest reward. You'd really like to have some form of shared storage that you and your best friend or you and your guild could access? Wouldn't it be better to have an NPC for that purpose? (Maybe some kind of hybrid between Duey and the regular Storage NPCs) This way, if something goes horribly wrong between you and whoever you want to be able to share certain things with, they can't do anything hateful to or with your character or your non-shared equips and other items. They would also be unable to help themselves to your nx/rp. Your losses would be limited. (Admittedly, I don't know if such an NPC would be feasible.)
Hi hi. Disclaimer: I'm not here trying to justify an unban or whatever. Just giving others more info about Lance's case. (Also, hellloooo, i'm also banned. Why is it that nobody misses me. JK. ) Ok so.. believe it or not. Whatever I'm saying now, is what i personally feel, does not represent Lance's stand. 1. I AM NOT LANCE'S GF. (not yet. f3) 2. Lance did try to explain HP washing to me. And yes, I'm that dumb. And yes, i read the HP Wash guide. 3. What i can say is, helping me ap reset , set up my shop, arranging my invt, is just some ways Lance shows his affection.. - AP reset 'cos I'm busy and lazy and I don't bother. Also, I dunno how much to reset cos if i over reset, i cant use my claw and what not. -Set up shop ( i think this wasnt done very often) cos idk prices and i dont want to burden others by asking for p/c for every scroll. I'll forget the prices anyway. -Arrange invt. Lance has ocd. I kinda have a little bit too.. but i've been very busy recently, so Lance helped me arrange invt. f3 4.I have no idea how to play Hero. ( You can choose not to believe but yea. :/) And i still prefer playing my sin. Therefore, i can assure you guys that i have never used skadi to grind or power level etc. The most i did was kill a few mobs, bang into walls, what not. And it's been a longggggggggggggg time since i logged into his acc. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO THERE. I'M NOT EVEN A SLIGHT BIT INTERESTED IN HIS ACC. (except for impersonating him in guild chat hahahah) 5. I honestly feel that I'm the only one who should be banned.. Even though i did log into his acc, i was only once, or twice? and we switched back after a while. During the period when i was using his acc, we're at fm and he's telling me what's he's doing with mantouks. All in all, i feel strongly that this rule should be revised.. I agree with what ty said.. even though it was against the rule, no harm done. Furthermore Lance did consult with a GM. I know Matt said it was not the right way to contact a GM, but this just further proves inconsistency in the staff decisions. Please, do standardise what's acceptable and what's not. We for sure, wont get unbanned, but i can tell you guys that lance and i are happy nonetheless. To some, it may seem unfair, but GMs have the rights to ban us. :/ I just hope GMs reflect on this, and make changes or whatever. With so much displeasure amongst royallers, it wont do the server good anyway. #SiaoKaki (Please, I'm not here to create trouble, just speaking my mind about the issue. I'm also probably out of point and i apologise for that. No hard feelings guys, just a discussion. CHILLAX. )
You are that dumb that you can't follow a bunch of simple instructions? 1) Open inventory/cashshop tab. 2) Double click on an AP reset 3) Click down arrow on MP. If the down arrow for MP is faded out, (i.e. is there is not enough MP left to reset), stop the process as you are finished. 4) Click up arrow on LUK 5) Click ok 6) Open your skills tab 7) Click the up arrow on HP 6) Go back to 1 as long as the SP to spend showing in your skills tab is not 0. SURELY you could print something like that out, stick it to your computer monitor, and follow it each time you level. I honestly believe you are capable of this, and I really hope that deep down you know you are. Good luck coping with life if your plan is to pretend to be a useless woman that needs a man to do everything for her. While I can see that MapleRoyals is a highly romantic environment for the 2 of you to share how much you care about one another, the staff don't have the time to make an exception in the account sharing rule so that you can express your affection by accessing one anothers accounts. The world doesn't revolve around your relationship like some couples seem to think it does when it comes to sharing accounts in online games. It takes too much time for the staff to make an exception to you just because of your relationship. How much DEX do you have o.o All equips say how much DEX is needed to equip them. You need at least that amount of DEX, including equips. I can understand somebody who is new to maplestory being confused about this. But you're a pretty high level... and why not just ask Lance if you are confused, so that you can then use the resets yourself? Seeing as Lance wants to do so much to help you, why didn't you just ask him for p/c's? Lance's OCD is irrelevant to your account, as in theory he shouldn't even know how your inventory is arranged. If you've been too busy to play, then you don't need to worry about the state of your inventory either. If you do have time to play and inventory arrangement is that important to you, you should allocate some of your playing time to rearranging your inventory. Which is actually against the rules...
I get and agree with your point Tentomon, but this Is unnecessary. No need to result to personal attacks like that.
No it isn't a can of worms that this rule was created in the first place. If one had a problem with it, they weren't forced to make an account here. It is easy to not get banned from it. And you misunderstand what I said. People will start fighting against other rules as well. Far more than 10 people have been banned on this server. Correct. However, the reasons for the rule stand. The main issue is that account sharing can be used to abuse the system severely. Determining the severity of a given case requires a lot of investigation work. The GM's don't have time! They are volunteers! A blanket rule of no account sharing is a compromise that everybody just has to live with. There is a very easy way to not get banned because of it. Don't tell anybody your account details. If somebody else gives you their account details, don't log on to their account. Then the staff cannot ban you for account sharing. It's that simple.
My reasoning for that was actually that she had called herself dumb. I never would have said it had she not (although I did toss up a bit whether or not to say it) I then expressed that I didn't actually believe she was dumb near the end of that section. It wasn't intended to be a personal attack. Rather, it was just addressing the fact that the person had said they were too dumb to understand HP washing. I was actually expressing disagreement with them being that dumb, as they put it. I apologize that it came across that way. I was just going along with what she'd said.
Are you that DUMB to make a comment saying someone is dumb just because she made a statement saying that she is? She already said she isn't here to cause a flame or anything. And you chose to made such statement which OH WAIT which wasn't suppose to be intentional to ignite a reason. That was real uncalled for. Who's the dumb one now? It wasn't intentional though. I just thought since you are ready to label someone dumb, you would be ready to accept being one too. Wouldn't have called you one if you didn't yourself. karma's a 'beach'
You are still misunderstanding. I was actually questioning that she is dumb. That question was questioning her statement that she stated she was dumb. A question mark at the end of a sentence can be used to express doubt of something. In this case I was expressing doubt of her being "that dumb" as she put it. I really am at a loss as to how what I said has created so much confusion even after explanation. I do not know how else to explain my intention to you if you still don't understand it. Please satisfy my curiosity by enlightening me as to which part of my post you interpreted as me calling myself dumb Side track: It turns out that there IS a beach called "Karma". It is a very pretty beach! (It's in Bali, comes up with a google search). I wanna go there oneday!
OK, I definitely approve of this particular sidetrack, that looks like a lovely place to go, but... ...Rayes has been asked to stay on topic and given an infraction for his/her post, so could we go back to discussing whether or not a revision of the rules on account-sharing should be considered? Thanks! =)
I'm just going to go ahead and say that if everyone who had ever shared any accounts on this server, even if there was no real harm done, then pretty much every player from long ago would be banned, and the server probably would've shut down by now. And honestly, the part of this that really annoys me is that it brings up a previous incident that is representative of the bias experienced sometimes. John, I'm sure you recall catching Christine on Jocke's (Buddha) account at Zakum. Any reason you just told her to log off and not do it again then, but support bans in other cases other than that you two were friends? The rule was still the same back when that happened.
"Don't get caught" has already been stated multiple times here and before. It's really easy to do it without getting caught, and as John stated they don't investigate unless they're tipped off to account sharing. They're not actively going out to find people doing it.
