Duplicate Can't take out HP or MP on maple island

When using an AP reset on maple island, you are able to reset str/dex/int/luk, but not hp/mp, even if you have invested points in hp/mp.
After using the AP reset, you hear the 'ding' sound, but the stats don't change and the AP reset remains in your inventory. If you try using an AP reset after this, the reset-window doesn't appear. You have to change channel in order to use another AP reset.

 

really? i was able to do this. im not sure if it was pre-halloween or not but i reset a point out of a regular stat and put it into hp, then reset 3 or 4 out of mp into hp because i was bored

 

Hmm, @Sawngo isn't able to take out a point out of mp that he had put in earlier. I also tested it on a lvl 3 char as well as a lvl 16 char. All characters had more than min mp (10*lvl+2) when using the AP reset.

 

ok i just logged in and used an AP reset to test, i was able to reset another point out of MP into HP:

but now it seems i have... less than the minMaxMP im supposed to have?? wasnt the formula (10*lv)+2 for beginners?

 

In did some more testing. After putting a point in HP (I already had a point in MP) I was able to take out a point of HP, but not MP.
I added another point to MP but still wasn't able to take it out.
I added another point to MP and now I was able to take it out.
This makes me think that the min-MP for beginner might not be (10*lvl)+2, but (11*lvl)+2.
I don't understand why @wewjej was able to take out an point of MP beyond minMP then.
Could a GM explain how this works on maple island?

 

Well, having looked at the stats of a few of the characters that are experiencing this problem, I have concluded the following:

• Sawngo can't take away from MP because he has 0 points invested in HP at this time.
• Cowe was able to take out a point from mp because at the time of removing the mp, he had more than minimal required mp to wash with. Cowe had 434 mana and you needed at least 432 to wash with at that lvl.

So from what I can see there's no bugs going on at all regarding washing beginner characters.

 

thanks for clearing that up... any idea why sawngo can't use ap resets though? (considering that's the original issue)

 

Well, like I said: to take away from MP, you need to have points invested in HP. Sawngo currently has 0 points invested in HP.

 

from what i was told, he wants to reset out of STR, and he just cant use any resets period. i guess he'll have to make a post about it. maybe i misunderstood. i can't describe any real details since it's not happening to me

 

He does have a point in MP though, is there a way for him to get that back?

 

Should be able to yes, likely with the following procedure:

1. Add 1 point into HP.
2. Remove 1 point from MP, put it in either HP or into str / dex / luk / int.

After that he would no longer have 1 point invested in MP.
This is of course if he has more than minimum required MP to wash with.

 

Okay thanks! I always thought you needed a point in HP or MP to take out of HP or MP, but apparently you need points in HP to take out of HP or MP.

 

I did some further testing: I made a new character and put the 9 starting AP in the following stats:
1 AP in HP
8 AP in int
I lvled up to lvl 2
I put an AP in MP
I tried to remove the MP point but that didn't work.
I put the remaining 4 AP in MP too and I tried to remove MP, but that didn't work.
I continued adding MP and tried to remove it till lvl 4
I then lvled to lvl 5 and put an AP in HP.
I tried to take a point out of MP and this worked!
I tried to take another point out of MP, but this didn't work (even though I have many points left in MP, and 2 point in HP)
I added another AP to HP
I tried taking a point out of MP, and this did not work (even though I added an extra point in HP)

It seems to me like MP washing is bugged for beginners / islanders

 

It probably helps to mention what character you're doing it on, else I can't really check what statistics you're working with.

 

The character I made to test this is called 'Surfboard'.

 

Have you tried what happens after lvl 10 or lvl 30? I know that all the hp washing tables we have on the forums are designed for 2nd job characters (thus lvl 30 and above), and I don't know how it impacts beginners at lvl 5.

 

Ok, I just tested it on a lvl 18 character.
I don't know how many AP I have on HP on that character, but I was able to add lvl-up-AP and take it out again (and put in dex). I did this 4 times. Can you check how many AP I have in HP on 'scrolier'?
If I have 1 AP in HP, then MP washing is probably possible from a certain lvl, I'd expect lvl 8 or 10.

 

It says here that scrolier has 1 ap in hp and 1 ap in mp.

 

Thanks a lot! This means that MP washing is indeed possible on maple island. Now I just gotta figure out at what lvl, but I'll have to test that another day, since I'm out of AP resets.
I think this bugreport can be closed now.

 

Actually, there's still a bug: When you fail to take out MP, you can't use another reset or use portals until you cc or wait a while.