We can already buy hair / face / eye coupons with mesos, 1m each. Why not enable Gachapon to also accept mesos? 1-3m per try! Can see this taking a looot of mesos out of the economy.
By doing that, wouldn't the server then be setting an official NX to meso ratio/conversion rate? Also, it is possible to limit to an extent the amount of NX a player has that they could spend on Gach whereas if mesos could be used, there is a seemingly endless supply a player can use. As it is, I think we are better off focusing on the NX sinks more than anything else.
NX Sink is already a Thing, no? See: Selling AP Resets, TP Rocks, and Smegas in FM at the approved 3.3:1 ratio. Seems to me there's already an NX to Meso conversion rate. Why not then apply it to Gach tickets too, and watch those billions of circulating mesos disappear? Could even potentially modify the Gach rates! Maybe even different rates for CS Gach Tix vs Mesos!
Face and hair coupons will need to be purchased from the Cash Shop in the new source. Everyone who had coupons in their inventory in the transition was refunded 1m per coupon and had them removed. Allowing Gachapon tickets to be purchased with mesos would need a considerable amount of thought put into it since Gachapon pretty much dictates the value of high-end equips on the server.
Oh, didn't know that. Certainly changes things... so I suppose Smegas, TP Rocks, and such won't be available from Frederick or w/e the NPC was in the FM anymore?
Mmm, that's a much more intuitive method than having them in FM - especially if FM button isn't returning.
Hobo does have a good idea at its base, however the implementation is flawed, because of the cause that it would have on the server. However, maybe in the future, MapleRoyals could repurpose an npc that is like gatch but does not have the same pool of items from gatch, something unique. with rewards that MapleRoyals could control so end game/economy doesnt break. They could also control the chances of getting that good item as opposed to the crappy ones no one wants. Alternativly a lottery could work, have a small set of prizes that would be raffled away, people can buy tickets with messo, rules could be placed around how many tickets and how often, to control the reduction of messo. It could last a week or a month. Edit: not sure if this is possible but the items received from custom gatch and lottery could be untradable to make the sink even more effective. and the items even more sought after. Edit edit: this is a very fun topic. what about increasing taxes on player trades and shops? and reducing messo drop rate to 1x, the messo rate doesnt need to be so high because prices will follow money available in peoples pockets. (less meso being generated slows down inflation, and increasing taxes helps pull money out of players hands when they trade with each other) edit edit edit: consumables!!!! if the custom gatch i proposed above could be made, because im not sure of the work involved. consumable items could be the rewards. like gold zombie teeth, or clovers, quest items, potions items that will get used. The money goes away, and the item received will exit circulation by quest or player usage. this even works with the lotto, scrolls that dont drop could also be rewards. and the custom gatch should have useless use items as well like snail shells, mushroom spors, pig ribbons.
Was that a maple royals only thing? Do you have more information on Mr. Pickall? which one of my suggestions are you referring to?
Mr. Pickall was simply an NPC that I coded back in 2013 when learning how to use random numbers in Javascript. It consisted of choosing between 3 options, one would make you a small profit, another would do nothing, and another would take away mesos from you. It just ended up staying in the game all this time as it was just forgotten about or didn't necessarily need to be removed.
Don't forget we'll have donation medals for towns, and people will end up paying high money for those I bet. matt himself said he used to spend billions per month in EMS just to get the Sleepywood medal.
Making Gachapon tickets available for purchase may take mesos out of the economy, but the problem is that it would result in a lot of end game items/scrolls to enter the economy. Especially at such a low meso rate it would devastate our current economy and market. We would quickly see PGC's, ITCG items, White/ Chaos Scrolls, and End game weapons lose so much of their value that we will see twice as much of them around for half the price. This would mean perfect cravens, sky skis, 20 atk FS, 23 atk scg's will no longer be all that rare which would make the challenge level of this server plummet to the ground.
Possibly true. Though prices of tickets could be adjusted, or the rates. Both of which I mentioned earlier
Well even if the rates were changed, unless it was something absolutely ridiculous like 15m per ticket I am 100% sure we would be seeing what I mentioned happen to some extent, the extent of course dependent on the price of the ticket.
I think the only way to start fixing the economy would be to remove the option to buy tickets with NX or mesos, and only offer them as limited reward items, like via VP for example. Another clever idea I've seen on some servers is to have unique items (like gach or custom items) drop only from mobs within portals that you need tickets to access once per day. Though, that would obviously take away from the nostalgic feel this server wants to have. But on the nostalgia point, there isn't much more of a departure from the old Maple than allowing everyone to be billionaires at lv50, so it's really surprising nothing has been done about this yet. 8+ free tickets a day really takes a lot of the challenge away from meso management and hunting items yourself (not to mention the usefulness of many items that become obsolete from high gacha supply). At the very least, if nothing is to be done about gachapon dictating the economy, there should be more NX and meso sinks added. For example, why don't we already have SoK since people just circumvent having to boss themselves by paying a party to loot anyway.
If we're looking at Meso Sinks - why not simply apply a 9-10m price tag on AP resets? Perhaps make them untradeable, too! Community already decided on a 3.3:1 NX <-> Meso conversion rate. There would be a huuuuge amount of mesos leaving circulation via this method, rather than simply trading hands over and over. People buy upwards of a hundred at a time, sometimes HUNDREDS at a time. That's ONE BILLION MESOS every hundred. Roughly. 900m - 1b. Instead of watching that go from player to player - just put AP resets on sale in the Cash Shop for 9-10m mesos.
No, just no. One thing that helped me as a newbie is my luck gaching WS and other valuable items with 35 tickets with so I can open a NL with decent equipment and fund it slowly but surely. It is really good and helping new players to start with the character they like instead of grinding with a bishop to lvl 200 and THEN funding an attacker - no unfair advantage here since everyone is getting the same NX amount per vote and everybody can vote once. Now, imagine if high leveled players who easily have more than 20-50b "investing" all this money on gach. They gonna have like 20k-50k tickets AT LEAST. If it is possible to make 400-500m with just 35 tickets (if you are lucky), multiply it by 1000-500. It is insane number and such numbers will screw the economy very fast, giving an unfair advantage to the high leveled players over the new players and driving the prices down due to WS\Chaos scrolls\end game equips flooding the market. It is going to be a mess, believe me.
1. Cash shop items should stay cash shop items, I don't even agree with hair coupons being bought for messo. 2. Messo drop rates should be 1x, to slow down inflation and tax should be increased on player trades. Everyone will be angry about having less messo but they dont acctualy have less money. This prevents post world war 2 Germany from happening in MapleRoyals (buy a loaf of bread with a wheel barrow of money) 3. To remove messo from circulation something new needs to be introduced that players cant do without, and it needs to be targeted at the high level players (they have the most money). one idea is a lotto or slot's, another idea could be a ridiculous amount of money to buy another entry to horntail or zak. (I dont know how end game works)
