20 channels with area bosses

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    I just want to say that 20 channels with area bosses when theres less than 100 people online daily and most of them probably doesn't even kill area bosses, this is really broken.

    Someone counter this with: "more people should just log on and do bosses then"
    I think that more people would actually do bosses if they could finish washing their characters, had working skills for their character or if they were able to safely transfer their gear.

    basically what I want to point out here is that its not fair to have 160bfs spawn ever 12-20hours and 20 anegos every 6-9hours when there is a bunch of people who can't even kill them because key features in the game doesn't work.
     
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    For me I am thankful that the area bosses are working now. It takes step by step for a game to be completed and having area bosses is a step closer to that state. I am so thankful for that.

    From what I have seen, all core skills work now so I guess most people can fight bosses according to their levels.
    Also, the staff is continuing to work on skills and other features, it would be just some time more until everything comes back to normal.

    And I don't think disabling or limiting the number of area bosses now will do anything good. Maybe it will get many people upset and bored of the game because there is really not much to do atm.
     
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    I see what you're saying but it might be those area bosses that make some people log in and report bugs, I don't log in and contribute, so I think it's fair that those who do get to enjoy the exp from area bosses and mesos from the event. The more people online the quicker we'll get the game back.
    Even if some lose exp they could have gained, I think it's for the better, or else we'll have not many online more than the beta server used to have..
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    I don't think it's fair, I do think it's for the better.
     
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    so you think its fair that people who have a playable character should get heaps of bosses to them selves because people who don't have a playable character is not logging on anyways?
    @Tardex grinding areabosses =/= bug testing, i agree with you to a certain extent that bug testers should be rewarded but how about the people who cant kill bf and still reports bugs ??? what do they get?
     
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    Only two classes are without core skills working. That's corsairs and shadowers - with battleship and meso explosion/darksight (thus assassinate) not working. And it's known, and being worked on.
    So if 10 out of 12 classes have their core skills working, well enough to kill bosses or grind (as has been seen because the bosses *have* been getting killed to an extent, albeit somewhat slowly), is it still truly unfair to everyone? It's unfair to those two classes, yes, but there's nothing more that can be done atm other than letting Kevin work on what needs to be done. One man doing the job that a team of people normally do, he can only do so much at a time.

    Drop trading is secure enough if you just CC to an empty channel and do one at a time at the top of the FM. I've done it, and so have many other people imo. Or even just go to a different map all together. The chance of a mass server-wide d/c or even freezing are at an all time low. Sure it isnt the best, but it's completely doable.

    HP washing is not necessary to the game, so by choosing to HP wash with a high base int you're knowingly limiting yourself. If you're so limited by HP washing that you currently can't boss, I doubt that you'd be ready to boss right this instant just because now they're up again, when they were up before the new source patch just as they are now.

    The fact that many people have been killing them is proof enough IMO that they can be killed by anyone (outside of those two classes). And while it sucks those two classes can't boss, again, it's being worked on as fast as Kevin can work. He has a lot to do.

    The intent was to release all 20 channels from the start, and area bosses are one step towards bringing the game to full functionality. NX drops have been removed temporarily from them, so there's nothing to gain except EXP. And why does it matter if someone has their fun in hunting the bosses while there's a lower amount of competition? It's a game, and no one gets anything tangible or worthwhile from leveling before someone else does.

    I fail to see how it's unfair for anyone other than those two classes who cannot play the game as everyone else. Those have a valid point but why remove functionality instead of fixing more things so everyone's on an equal playing field?
     
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    No offence but this post makes you sound bitter about something lol.

    (Q) Are you able to kill on a character you want to level?

    If yes then revert back to (Q)

    If no then that may be why.

    Personally idgaf I just want my cpq and party quests and social aspect of game back.

    Also Tardex raises a good point.
     
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    This isn't anywhere near as broken as when high levels took advantage of HT when it had no cooldown.

    Even so, I agree it's not fair, but what exactly would we do to stop this? Remove area bosses? That'd be a bit silly. It's being worked on, we'll just have to deal with this as another consequence of the new source's issues.
     
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    when and how did i ever say that its unfair to everyone? What im trying to explain is that it is indeed unfair to the people who can't play the game at the moment and not because they didn't make a high level enough character or anything that is their own fault. No, the reason why they can't kill bosses is because of new source broke certain functions that made the game unplayeable for them at the current state.
    Drop trading is more secure than ever before thats still not secure enough... You of all people should know since you've lost gear before although it wasnt to drop trading but i think you should know how it feels to lose something that you worked hard for even if the risk is minimal people would probably prefer having a risk free transaction.
    Sure by chosing to put base int on your character you are limiting yourself for the time being, but normally you have an option to wash out your int at any given time if you just have enough ap resets nx or mesos and reset sellers. No one started to hp wash and thought i better wash out before new source since they might fuck me over if i dont and have massive amounts of area bosses that i cant kill.
    I haven't heard anything about many people killing the bosses according to my bl the otherday people said they had killed 50bfs+ in a day and they said there was no competition for it what so ever.
    Yeah who cares if people can level much faster/easier than you are/were ever able to... its just a game let everyone have instant level 200 at maple island who cares. lbr though i do understand that this is just temporary and that its not intended to be shit for some people while its really op for others but thats the whole point with this feedback im trying to explain that its really broken as is and maybe there should be something to prevent this while we wait for certain game functionality to be back so that everyone that wants can actually take part in killing area bosses in all 20 channels.
    Like i said its unfair to people who don't want to drop their gear that they worked hours and hours to obtain, its unfair to people who had started hp washing but cannot finish it to start killing bosses, its unfair to the classes that don't have their skills working properly I would say thats quite a few people. Youre basically saying fuck these people because they're not that many anyway.

    or it could be possible to just have a lower amount of channels untill the game is working properly or has regained some playerbase. Personally i think this is worse than the ht thing because ht was available for anyone who wanted to ht multiple times at that time while now people literally can't kill area bosses because certain game functions were broken by new source.
     
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    Having more bosses spawning than there are people on the server at the moment doesn't make sense to me. Considering what was said to the Royalers so many times about the population needing to grow in order to add other channels. Sure it's nice to big foot 50 times in a row but in all honesty thats a bit much and kinda breaks the game.
     
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    Actually I use a shadower and while it sucks that meso explosion doesnt work, assassinate isnt too core (usually not maxed till 150-160ish) ^^ The main killer is that dark sight doesn't work, because bf deals hella dmg. That being said, I killed BF with boomerang step/assaulter even tho it took longer.
     
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    I didn't find any pianus when I went there a few times <.<
    And bf is useless now anyway cause you can't get multiple dep stars (so it's just for exp)
     
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    Killing loads of bf/anego is not that amazing of exp, and is currently the only thing high level people can do. Having which should be a good thing just to have something for people to do on the server, as some people might even log in. Drops from bf/anego are also nothing to write home about. Me myself i have a sair all core broken can't do anything and i still think having the area bosses up to have something for people to do is a good thing for the server. It seems to me that the reasoning of this post is that you are on so called "unfair" situation and can't look at things from other perspective than your own. All in all the server is coming up very slowly, way slower than all of us would want to. Still i think having the bosses up just to have something up is good overall even if slightly abusable at some certain levels and situations.
     
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    killing anego and bf is actually one of the best ways of getting exp or atleast it was before since you kill 1 bf in around 3minutes and that gives you around .5% at lvl199 and grinding o4 which basically is the next best alternative is around 5% exp/h at that level so killing bf is double that exp. I have no problem seeing it from other peoples perspective but the fact that a few people are killing all the bosses right now, while a few others can't because major functionality is missing from the game that is literally preventing them to play is not fair in my opinion if you fail to see that idk what to tell you then.
     
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    um so show me where my hero's power guard and power stance are at? because i'm almost 99% sure that i need both of those skills to fight a lot of bosses, i could be wrong though
     
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    if you're using the right weapon you can knock-back bigfoot 100% without getting hit by it, it still doesn't make it smooth but it's definitely possible, atleast you have your main damage skills unlike shadower or corsair who don't and clearly having a disadvantage.
     
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    Noone is getting more exp than before as daily bosses are not working, so who cares that there is currently decently efficient way of getting exp for higher levels. The fact that only few people are killing the bosses also shows that the exp just is not as unbeliavable as you make it sound. The server for sure has a lot of high level players who would be ale to kill the bosses, but just don't bother to. Adding more content to server should be the priority, even if it does not fill all the requirements of your communism level "fair".
     
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    i had to read this to understand what your point was
     
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    the fact that people are getting less exp than before really doesn't matter, its the fact that certain people can't get exp at all while others still can get decent exp at bosses. The fact that theres just a small amount of people killing bosses doesn't necessarily prove anything and might just as much be because more people are being unable to play because one reason or the other, rather than that the exp isn't a big deal. I don't think adding more content should be the priority over fixing shit that is broken, that would just make it even more unfair... letting people have earlier access to content while others cant use their skills properly.

    Also appearently anegos still drop stuff like scrolls https://royals.ms/forum/threads/latest-accomplishment-thread.2508/page-273#post-465771 7 wand matk in 7 anegos so i guess its not just exp after all.
     
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    um so show me where my hero's power guard and power stance are at? because i'm almost 99% sure that i need both of those skills to fight a lot of bosses, i could be wrong though
    and as for pinning anego on the bookshelf?
     

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