HP Washing For New Players

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    Thanks to Gossamer's HP washing guide i have been able to wash a lot of HP for my main char Spearman.

    Really really want to thank you with a WS, do you accept :D@Gossamer
     
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    In the archer spoiler under "Choose your class" it says first that you don't need to MP wash more than 65 times, then in red it says no more than 50 times, and finally in blue it says to MP wash 152 times. If i have 160 base int and have washed 60 times by level 48 but only have 2276 MP, should i continue MP washing until I hit 5318 MP? Or will I gain more MP as i keep leveling to 155.
     
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    The Best way to do this is to get your INT to 140 as quickly as possible (By about level 33). Then MP Wash 130 times (Until about level 59). Then Reset all your INT back into LUK immediately after. That way you can train without leeching yourself passed level 59. This just costs an extra 80 AP Resets.

    may i know after lvl 59 what should i do? should i go for ap washing? kind of confused.
     
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    Why do I have to wait until lvl 80-90 to start MP washing if I hit 140 int by level 50? Couldn't I start right away?
     
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    I have a question, just made a sin and I am going to wash using base INT, right now as a beginner I'm putting all my AP into INT until I reach 100~120.
    How am I suppsosed to train?
    like, get level 21 for kpq. from then it's pretty easy to level up to level 51 with kpq\lpq.
    and further? how do I level up?
    should I just start washing at level 50? or aim for higher base INT?
     
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    1. I currently have a lvl49 gunslinger with 200 INT and +80 of int equips(still gonna get more ~15 from lvl 50 equips). He got 1830 MP and currently 37 free AP.

    2. Can I just put everything to MP in order to MP wash? Like this 37 go into MP so I get extra INT, and I go putting Mp without using AP resets? From what I get from the process this isnt an issue, I could use the AP resets later on. I dont need stats because Im leveling him with my bish.

    3. i get the only problem would be not knowing how much AP MP was invested, but I could just write that out.
     
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    You said in the guide Pages/Fighters don't need to HP wash.

    But I'm insane, so I want to HP wash my page.

    I'm currently sitting at ~105 INT total at level 22, without MP washing, would it be safe to say I'd get at least 2 washes per level up? (since the + mp from leveling, would account for the increase in min MP)

    Ive also been throwing the idea of MP washing around. 120 BASE int at 30, leveling to 70 and MP washing 5 times per level (30-70 I'd be adding MP, taking out of MP, and adding to str to assist in leveling)

    My question is, are there calculations, easy ones, to know how long I need to do this?
     
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    Every 10 INT gains 1 MP. per level up. so if oyu have 105 int and you level up you gain 10 mp.
    having 100 base int is a bit extreme for a warrior, you should invest in int equips rather than mp washing / having high base int. as a restult it will affect ur dmg and time spent on grinding exp.
     
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    "The gunsliger: 4.5 - 6b" is totally wrong, I just need like 10 - 15 wash from level 90 to lv 100 and now im lv 146 with 5k3 HP, by 155, i can reach 5k5 HP. And that isn't include the 120 Medal (+ 200 HP), omg, if you have 6b, spend it on funding your eq, and you can have good damage!!!
    I dont use int eq but still have alot of MP to wash, so i think gunslinger is the best class compare to orther classes(about washing HP)
     
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    The base INT is so I can get the same HP goal at a lower level. Plus, if I choose to MP wash which i'm leaning towards.... if I do my math right, I could have an additional 20k health by level 70, meaning I could reset the INT, and obtain a close to 30k health naturally (from regular leveling/INT gear) by bossing level
     
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    if you mp wash you will gain:
    int/10 (rounded down) per mp wash.

    well I mp washed just for fun on my drk just so I dont need to worry about mana pots (I got more than enough mp for 30k hp).

    Might be overkill for a new player tho, but all in all its all up to you.
     
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    Oh I'm not new. This guide is just more accurate and has better data than the other one. <3
     
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    Ok just want to confirm something so I don't mess up my char. Let's say I have opened a new level 1 char which is going to be a Drk and I got all the INT gear way before I even opened it. My goal is to get 30k hp with HB at level 150 or something like that. I started wearing INT gear from as early as level 8 (wooden wand) and 15-20-25 (single earring, raggedy cape and robe and maybe even a bandana)..My INT is going to be around 60 at level 50 I think, depends on how lucky will I get with my scrolling and my zakum helm. Got 20 INT from a dep star, 4 base and 11 INT level 55 cape I already have so it's 40 more.

    Do I need to just level up with my INT gear on, hoard MP and do a massive wash at the level I choose to, or do I have to wash every time I level up or a specific level?
     
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    You don't need the solid 30k with a DK, just 18 and change because of HB. Makes it much easier to wash to.

    Also, as long as you're leveling with the INT gear, you can wash as you level, or save it all till 120+ when you start leveling Beserk, doesn't matter. You won't lose the extra MP you've gained.
     
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    Yeah that's what I meant when I said 30k with a DK. So it is not that hard to wash a DK from what it seems thanks to HB. But what about washing a Hero/Paladin to 30/25k without HB? Since they do not have HB it's probably harder to achieve and 60 INT won't be enough here (or will it?).

    They have more base HP though so I'm not sure... Any clue on INT gear/base required for such goal? Not necessarily at 150, it can be 20-15 levels later.
     
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    I made a spreadsheet to track my HP/MP. I hit 30 last night, and I have 102 BASE int, and 18 in equips, for a total of 120 per level up. As soon as I hit 25, I started to get enough MP per level to wash 3 times, and then you add in the bonus MP pages get at job advancement, I currently have enough extra MP for 78 washes, or if I washed ALL at once right now I'd be sitting at 5.4k HP (roughly)

    As it sits, I'm storing AP. Every 1 AP I put into MP, will get me either 10 or 12 (depending on if the new source uses BASE or TOTAL int in MP washing), assuming the low end, 5 AP per level = 50 MP - 20MP (from resetting the MP into STR), = an extra 30 MP each level to wash with, or an extra 7 washes.

    If I average 10 washes a level between MP washing and level ups, by 70 I will have an extra 400 washes. Assuming I continue to average 65 HP on level up........

    1571 current HP+ (65 HP x 40 levels) + (478 washes x 50 HP/wash) = 28,071 HP at level 70.

    Now, again, assuming 65 HP on level up till 200..... 200-30 = 170 x 65 = 11k HP I would otherwise gain naturally, but that's unreasonable, let's say I want to hit 30k by 150 (early bossing), I would get from levels... 120x65 = 7.8k, and when you take away from 30k... 22.2k

    So what?

    If I could wash infinite times RIGHT NOW, I would want to wash up to 22.2k. Which means my current goal is to save up enough BONUS mp so I can wash about 444 times. Something I should be able to achieve by level 67
     
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    Hey, can someone help me with calculating. I have fighter that is current level 59, it has 4030 hp and 893 mp as well as 91 int from equips(5 base). I tried to calculate it on my own and some how I got like around 20k hp by level 120, is this correct? Can someone correct me and tell me how much hp that I will have by level 135?
     
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    120-59 = 61 levels

    I don't know what the HP per level gain is, but I'm going to guesstimate 65 (what my page gets). By 120, you'll naturally be around 4030 (current) + 3965 level up HP = ~7995 HP at 120

    Now, you're min MP at 59 is (59x4) + 56 = 292. Given you have 893, you have an excess of 601 MP, or 150 washes RIGHT NOW. 150 x 50 (HP wash HP estimate), you'll have another 7500 HP

    Tally, natural HP at 120, 7995 + current washes 7500 = 15507 HP

    in 61 levels to 120, you should be averaging 9 extra MP per level, assuming you gain about 4 per level naturally, let's round down and say you have an extra 8 MP to wash with... 61 levels x 8 mp = 488 MP, or about 122 more washes. 122 x 50 = 6100 HP, so add that to your total, 15507, you'd come out about 21.6k HP at 120 if you DON'T MP wash, and you just wash with the MP you'll get from leveling with equips.

    So you're about right, give or take 1-2k, since you get some HP from job advancement, and i'm only guesstimating your HP gains from levels and washing.
     

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