Quitting Marijuana after 9 years of Smoking

Just thought i would make this thread to see if there is anyone else going through this. I smoke from 14-23 and by age 16 i was at 3.5-5 grams a day of medical Colorado stuff. Royals community is always the shit so thought why not see if we can help each other.

Currently im 50hours weed free still cant eat solid food or sleep to well but constant crying or panic attacks like day 1.

Things i used (not sure if any actually helped or placebo effect):
Cranberry Juice
Water
Melatonine
Valarian Root
Magnesium
Milk and Honey

I was so surprised that weed almost gave me heroine like withdraws it was kinda scary. Thought i would share this before someone gets to deep into it. I love weed and think it should be legalized but anyone who smokes daily should just quit for a day and see how they feel. Weed killed my emotions for so long that when i finally felt something anything it was very scary. If anyone got any other non addictive drug remedies i can try or herbs lmk. I already use a steam room and workout almost all day to sweat it all out.

 

I'm smoking weed almost 9 years as well. From age 17 to 25. But I don't see any point in quitting it for good or quitting anything for good. Why you ask?

My secret is never smoke anything on a daily basis, including tobacco. I can smoke tons in one day, but suddenly quit smoking everything for couple of months util I feel like smoking again. Self control and will power is the secret.

And never, never smoke in such huge amounts like you. I've been to the states once, your legal stuff is strong af. There is no point in smoking 3.5-5 grams per day. You will get dumbed down.

This kind of mistakes is why drugs (of any kind) are illegal when they should all be legalized.

I treat all drugs like junk food. I can always have some when I feel like it, but never in huge amounts and not on a daily basis. When you wake up in the morning and the first thing you do is packing a bowl, you are doing something wrong. That's the reason I have never experienced withdrawals from anything I ever tried.

For start, try to limit yourself to smoking 3-4 times a week. After that, once a week. After that, once a month and after that once per 3-2 months. You will be fine, no need to quit completely.

 

Would not recommend the limiting yourself to smaller dosages over a period of time. Its too hard for someone who got accustomed to it daily.

The best way to quit an addiction is find another one to replace it with. Remove from your life all mediums you used to get it. Ex delete all dealers #s, stop keeping cash on hand, etc.

I personally recommend finding a girlfriend that doesn't smoke or finding a game to no life for a couple weeks.

 

well after almost killing myself the first day, day 3 deff alot better. so i kinda wanna continue the cold turkey method. And suprisingly i still have plenty of weed i can smoke. its right outside in my car with my bong. i just choose not to smoke cuz withdrawal was so horrible i dont wanna go back. And yea im trying to play maple and league but motivation so low. Like a bunch of anegos were up yesterday and i was like eh fk it. lol

 

yea i definitely went overboard, every time i had stress i was like bong rip. i felt like even if i was clumsy for a second and like dropped something it would make me angry enough to smoke. Just have no stress tolerance. lived without any stress for so long that it feels like im in WW2 forever.

 

Play a MMO like blade and soul.

 

Yo! I'm going to share my story, maybe you can learn something from it. It might become a long read though

I've been smoking from my 16th to my 22th almost daily. I stopped smoking daily in june 2016.
I'm from a town 20 minutes away from Amsterdam, which for me caused a scenario where all my friends smoked daily.
I've seen many people quit, many many people.
It's different for almost everybody. The reason why you quit is a big factor in this progress.
It determents the likelihood that you will fall back into smoking daily.
If you quit because of money issues for example, as soon as you have the money again you would fall back into it.
Or lift back up into it, depending on your vision.


I quit multiple times. Theres a little pattern that I recon in quitting. this is my personal pattern, and it might be different for all of y'all. Still I've seen it with many people.
When I quit, it goes something like this;
First week I get very angry. I don't feel angry in general, but I get triggered by stuff that normally doesn't trigger me.The smallest things, like heat or cold, might trigger me. And my anger goes beyond the anger I normally have. Similar patterns I had in my first week after taking xtc.
This first week is always a horrible time. All I can do is be angry no matter what I try, even things I love to do could trigger me. Many ups and downs in this week, with up being not more than not being completely down.
In this week I start dreaming like it's real life.
at this stage, I've seen friends and have myself get back to smoking to deal with that out of control anger/sadness. I find this a hard stage that I just have to sit out. The dreaming became the only upside in this week, once I learned how to control them.
There is no hobby or workout that fixes this state for me. Or even make it a little faster. Like I said above, I just have to sit it out. Basically just survive.

Now after this first week (note that it is not a deadline, it could be a few days for some people, it could be 2 weeks for others) the triggering is over. The anger seems gone. Dreaming seems to stop too. These symptoms will not return. This is where my "wave" starts.
My mind gets sharper, my memorie becomes better and I start to feel more energised. Big downside on the last part, because while I like how it gets me to workout, it kills my natural relaxed vibes. I can get emotional in this part. I'll call this stage 2.
In this stage, i've seen myself get back to smoking to kill the extra energy.

After this stage (about 3 weeks to one month in, stage 3) I suddenly feel like I smoked yesterday. I lose the sharpness that I gained, the ability to remember anything is gone and I feel way more relaxed. For me it's literately as if I smoked the day before. This feelings slowly fades away over days, and I find myself in stage 2 again.
I stay in stage 2 longer than the first time, but then fall back into stage 3. This cycle continuous for a crazy long time. This is the wave I mentioned above.
In stage 3, I normally fall back into smoking because I feel like I quit for nothing and I'd rather be high than sober if it ends up being the same.

Although I fall into a big stage 3 after about 3 months, the time I stay in stage 2 seems to become bigger the longer I quit, and the stages 3 go from days to just one day.

Eventually stage 2 becomes such a long period of time, that I can say I feel sharp. I feel like my mind recovered from the Haze, and is in it's natural sharp state again.
This is where my stage 4 begins, eventhough the stage 2 - 3 wave still continues.
Stage 4 for me, is where I think I'm ready to smoke passively. I never am. And neither are you.
Because at this stage I've quit for about 3-5 months, the o so familiar feelings of being high starts to fade. I start to miss this.
This in combination with the feeling of being sharp again, is what makes me feel like I could just smoke for one night. Just this one time.
In this stage 4, I fall back into daily smoking by thinking I'm ready while I'm not.
Up on smoking again, I realise I miss it a lot and start planning to do it either once a month or once a week to stay passive. This quickly becomes twice a week, until I end up smoking everyday. Because the feeling of missing the weed still stays, and only gets filled with smoking.
This is a hard stage to get used to, because you feel like you're ready mentally.
The problem I found in this, is starting to smoke because I miss the feeling of being high. I want to make that feeling familiar because it was familiar for years in my life. And now suddenly it becomes unfamiliar, which causes me to feel like I'm losing something.
Weed suddenly is on my mind a lot in this stage, and it's hard for me not to smoke just once.
But if you don't give in on thinking that you're ready, and really dig down why you think you're ready, and whether you're not just really missing the feeling, you'll can force yourself through this stage. The only downside for me is that I keep the feeling of losing something.


Passing stage 4, I get into the wave again.
After this the last stage arrives. Stage 5.
This is where I get a night that screams for weed. Like a song I really want to hear high, a series that is perfect to watch stoned or I just found this cake I used to bake when I was high. And then all those combined at the same time. Basically when all pieces of the puzzle seam to fit.
I know I'm in stage 5 when on that day, when everything fits so perfectly, I wouldn't mind spending it sober either. High or sober is just a 50/50.
At this moment, I am truly ready. I reached this state in my latest experience on February 2017, about a month ago. I desided to smoke again. Ofcourse, because you feel 50/50, you don't have to. If I want to quit forever, this is where to road would continue, and because even on the most perfect day I wouldn't mind being sober, the road of forever soberness would most likely be easier.
Even in this stage I managed to fall back to smoking weekly straight after smoking. which ofc ended up in smoking daily again.

This is my experience everytime I stop. I've only passed stage 4 twice, and only survived stage 5 once (now).
Because even in stage 5, once I get high again, I simply love it so much.
But unlike the first 4 stages, If I smoked in stage 5, the days after smoking feel just like my first time smoking. Like I just had a fun night which was perfect for it, but now I'm back in the sober trip again.

Which is when finally I am able to smoke just once every few months. It basically becomes like junkfood like TopKEK said above.
But for me, from stage 1-4, even if I view it as junkfood, I fallback in smoking everyday ones I smoke after I quit.

Some stage might still be harder for you to overcome than it is for me. Stage 1 for me was a nightmare before I learned to control my dreams because nothing seemed to help.
Having a new anime, a new game or whatever could make stages easier to overcome. But no matter what I do, no matter what new game I get that I play for months, This pattern always lures on the background. For me, almost nothing helps me in stage 1, and it basically is just surviving for a week. For some a game might already fix this, or a new lover or job. I personally recommend anything that does not last forever. Lovers and jobs might be harder to get rid of once you're out of the stages. But with some luck you might want to keep them even after.
Workouts help me in stage 2, force remembering some short memories helps etc etc.

Knowing this pattern is key in my progress of stopping. Because no matter what I do, even if I lay in bed all day and only eat and sleep, this pattern is what it is. The time ofc feels slower when you're bored, so anime or games etc can work, but the pattern still kinda stays the same.
It's still better to workout and eat healthy etc, just because that is what the human nature always desires. But the point I'm trying to make is that your body will do all the work, as long as you don't fall back into smoking.

Also from my personal experience, only stage 1 and stage 4 feel like I really have to force myself and sit out the time. The wave goes kinda easy for me, especially with workouts and hobbies. And the longer you quit, the easier it becomes.


ANYWAY, sorry for the long story.
If you feel like asking me anything about a stage or whatever, just ask.
And I'd like to know how it all goes for ya!

Peace.

 

All scientists and educators smoke. Its good for y'all

 

Dude i seriously cant thank you enough for taking the time to write your whole experience, because my plan was to smoke once a month once i quit for 1-2months. but now that i read all 5 stages and see its possible to get hooked right back in i think im gunna take a full year off and forget the magical high. i hope in a year ill smoke have a panic attack hate it and never come back. But seriously your the man for telling me your whole struggle it really helps me understand and prepare for the stages. and yea stage 1 i wanted to kill myself but luckily it seems like stage one ended in 5 days.

 

MJ will miss ya

 

i wont miss it, trapped me for years, spent 1k a month for 7 years, so thats almost 100 grand i could have bought a house. but u guys enjoy your weed. if i was a millionaire i would smoke forever

 

Just my conspiracy theorist tinfoil hat 2 cents:

Hitler, an evil dictator was extremely anti smoking.
Our same evil governments (no matter where are you from) are pushing vaccines which are killing people as positive thing, but saying smoking tobacco is bad for you.

Yet,
The most brilliant people were/are smoking tobacco. Sigmund Freud loved cigars for example. There are scientific facts that show tobacco is good for your brain.
And let's not talk about weed shall we?

Makes you wonder really, how our governments hate and lie to us. Just my 2 tinfoil cents.

 

Hitler was brilliant dude. Very evil, but brilliant. You shouldn't act like smoking makes people brilliant.
Smoking is unhealthy. Just like junkfood is. Sure junkfood gives you energy and some brilliant people probably eat junkfood every now and then. It's still unhealthy...

I've been around many addict, on different types of drugs.
In my experience, the ones that try to justify their addiction as healthy, are the worst and most untrusty ones and the ones most likely to OD.
It's fine to smoke, y'all can do whatever you want. But acting like it's healthy is just lying to yourself.

 

Hitler was a genius indeed. Stupid people don't conquer half of the world. But he was a dictator, just like our governments today who decide for us what is good and bad and we take it as complete truth without even questioning their brainwashing.

Drinking water is "unhealthy" too. Try drinking 10 gallons of water in one day and see what happens to you, if you survive. The point is everything should be limited to normal proportions. Smoking pack of cigarettes a day is unhealthy just like eating 20 big macs a day, but smoking tobacco in any form (cigarettes, pipes, cigars) every now and then will not harm you at all, talking from personal experience. I'm smoking tobacco like once-3 times per month and I'm in better shape than 99% of nonsmokers. Self control is the secret.

Most cancer patients didn't touch a cigarette once in their lifetime.

 

I agree.
But since it is at a post which is asking something to replace a daily weed addiction, if you pick up smoking cigs because of that, 99% you'll end up smoking a pack a day.
It's not really the place to promote smoking cigs imo.

 

Drinking water to excess doesn't mean it's bad for us. The excess is, not the water.

Also, you're probably right about the cigarettes, however you're in a position that it's anedctodal and completely unsupported by science. Smoking nothing, period, is better for you. You can't argue that. But smoking a little probably won't harm you.

Also, the cancer part is also untrue, considering lung cancer is the largest single most preventable disease on the planet. Of course different sources have different numbers, such as other cancers (cervical cancer being more common, but the cause is virus, preventable by safe sex, etc). If people stopped smoking, across the world, today. Right. Now. Lung cancer would become very rare outside of coal miners in the 3rd world. There is a VERY strong correlation, and it's been studied extensively that smoking = cancers of the lungs, esophagus, and mouth.

 

you say you wanna quit but you keep weed and bong in your car still ? why tempt yourself ? Also, who you surround yourself will play a BIG part on whether you can truly quit or not. I watch my cousin try to quit all the time, and he can go days and months without it but as soon as he hangs out with his friends and they wanna blaze, it becomes so much more difficult for him to quit. Sometimes he can say no im trying to quit for a bit and wont have any, and sometimes they peer pressure him so much that he caves.. Just think about who you surround yourself. He also destroyed EVERYTHING that had to do with weed when he wanted to "quit" 300-400$ worth of weed/bongs. Mind you, everytime he would start again he would end up buying what he destroyed, so made me wonder why destroy it in the first place if youre going to end up paying more in the long run.

I myself did weed grade 11-12, and on my 19th birthday i said im done. And i havent looked back since (im 25 now) , but i was never addicted to it and really i only ever did it when someone offered it to me cus i didnt wanna pay for it lol I have close friends who smoke and they will still offer me to take a hit, but its been so long its very easy to say no thanks.

You'll get there dude! Have a goal as to why you want to quit and dont ever lose sight of that! Good luck m8

 

ty man today is the hardest day for me, 100 hours clean now tho

 

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