Stop being little snitches

I think the massive divide of opinions in this thread is just further evidence that you can say what you like in guild/buddy/party chat,but you need to be careful in all chat/ smegas.

Personally, there are things I don't mind my guildies saying because I know them well enough to know they are joking. But random people saying those same things to me would make me feel quite uncomfortable because I have no way of knowing if they are joking or not.

I think the real problem is the discipline system on the server. Would people be more willing to be considerate of the different backgrounds and feelings of the wide variety of people on this server if there wasn't bans on the menu for the occasional slip up? I fear that the zero tolerance system is just causing the exact problems it was intended to prevent. It's a catch 22.

While I have a lot of sympathy for those who are offended, a big issue seems to be cultural and personality difference. If the system had warnings as well as bans, then perhaps there'd be a little more motivation for the community to understand one another. With a system where the offended person can get the offender banned just like that, it leaves the offender hateful towards the offended. Whereas perhaps warnings would make the offender a little more willing to see things from the offended's perspective. Is punishment and not resolution along with all the anger it boils really what we want?

 

This thread is a little amusing...

Is it really SO DIFFICULT for people to just not to be a jerk?

 

compulsive jerk disorder o.o

It seems quite common throughout the world

 

You can argue that summoning bags were intended for the summoner to kill the monsters for loot purposes only ie. for the NX.

You're right. It is the GM and administrator's job to decide the sentencing which is what we're trying to change here. Why are people being banned subjectively? I feel bans should only come after the offender has been told to stop and did not. It's unreasonable to ban someone just because they said "smd" regardless of how insulted the offended felt.

 

Anonymity is such a great thing isn't it? You can do whatever you want with no consequences.

 

I give up. Gonna start sounding like a broken record.

It's still allowed to be used in town, so I don't see it ever being a bannable offense.

 

It's obviously a matter of opinion whether or not certain things are offensive. More or less, don't be a jerk to a complete stranger. There's literally no need for it. Unlike your friends, who, I'm sure, understand your humor, a stranger obviously won't. It's a lot different when you're typing a message to someone compared to actually speaking. The tone you use when you type out a message is completely eradicated in comparison to actually speaking to a person. Whether or not people should actually be reported for one small statement is beyond me. I feel like a ban is easily justifiable if the offended individual was continuously harassed beyond a request for it to stop. More or less, small things should just be dealt with in-game and if it gets to the point where it's just too much, report it.

TL ; DR
Don't be a jerk to complete strangers ; try to handle it in-game before moving it to a report.

 

What some of you fail to understand, and I assume it's a big part of the point of this thread, is that half the time it's the ones acting "offended" that are the jerks, reporting offenses that they really shouldn't find offensive (because most of them have been banned in the past for the same thing, and are just being spiteful pricks).

I have friends, and myself included who all don't mind the use of vulgar language, but some of them are really keen on trying to keep this vulgar language off the server if it's said in public by a stranger, it doesn't even matter if it's directed to them, it's just a matter of an offensive term being used in a public place (which they aren't offended by because why would they use it themselves if they were?). This is my take on the purpose of this whole thread, people snitch on rule breakers because they are spiteful, not necessarily because they are offended. This is also not limited to players...

 

You think people shouldn't be offended by a random guy approaching them and saying "smd"? It's so gross... there is reason other than spite to report for it.

And if you like discussing sexual acts with your friends, do it in buddy or guild chat, because the majority of people on the server don't actually want to know about it!

 

Victim blaming at its finest.

Maybe the culprit should have considered shutting up in the first place? Don't see how that is so incredibly difficult.

We're not even requiring action. Not saying something rude to a stranger is inaction which requires zero effort.

 

Okay, I have an alternate suggestion for you!

If you desperately need a random person to make sexual advances towards, AgentOrange/Eloquence/MrSnippy would love to hear it! Just find him and say everything you want to say to him

 

Technically it's not, he specified the people acting offended are the jerks, and I agree. A large portion of the report abuse forum is full of threads with "omg he said bad word hurr ban pls" as the person singles out a single word said. Do you really think that most of those people are genuinely offended, or just milking the opportunity to get someone banned? I believe it's the latter.

 

Eh? The server went through a phase of that awhile ago, which thankfully stopped after some people got banned (ironically for other reasons). But has it been as much of an issue recently? I know you don't think a person should be offended by being told "smd". But some people genuinely DO find that offensive, and hence the reason the report that triggered this stupid thread was made. Saying they should not be offended is victim blaming for sure.

 

We don't have the authority to say if you should be offended or not over something as banal and common as "smd", but if you do, mute that person and go on your merry way instead of creating drama and meaningless report threads. (Not you, Tento, but people in general).

 

It is victim blaming because it shifts our entire attention to the victims.

In this thread, everyone who supports the culprit has conveniently ignored the culprit.
Nobody (from their side) has actually questioned why the culprit even committed the act in the first place.

As for me, I am trying to put forth the radical notion that maybe, just maybe, the entire situation could have been avoided if the culprit chose not to say anything rude in the first place.

After all, what's there to report if there's nothing to report?

 

But what reason is there for guys to say "smd" in the first place? Another good solution: Don't say ANYTHING in all chat or smegas that you wouldn't go and scream in public!

I realise some people here feel all tough when online and anonymous and therefore claim that they'd say that stuff in public.

I doubt they would though, it runs the risk of getting arrested for sexual harassment.