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Discussion in 'Introductions and Farewells' started by Syre, Jun 19, 2014.

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  1. Syre
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    I won't leave a giant mess or anything. I'm simply leaving a slight review.

    By the time I managed to achieve level 6, I had already been pushed away from the server due to staff. Spawns were broken, drops were broken, some channels portals (so the entire channel) were broken, reactor spawns were broken, some quests were nonresponsive.

    I understand, as a previous server owner, that these things happen. I am not bad mouthing the server for those being present after I'm assuming a large amount of up-time.

    My only problem is, I stated the correct fix to the issue, and got called a heathen for it. I have been developing java for the last 8(7?) years now, all of it Maplestory related. I've seen some great developers and I've seen some poor developers. I'm willing to say your team rubs somewhere in between, at a mediocre standpoint.

    Now as for the GMs disrespecting players, which by the way I've been told would happen by multiple friends who shall rename nameless, that this would happen, yet I decided to have a look for it myself. Just from one person I met here not too long ago I have quite a few screenshots against one GM in specific disrespecting players. I myself was also disrespected. This is not a very professional outlook for a server hosting some 200 players, and before you even worry about playability issues you definitely should look at staff issues. Obviously the donators and the staff get along, because well, they donated. All I am seeing here is a server you have to buy to succeed, even though there are no ingame rewards related to that.


    With that said, I did enjoy playing on the server the short time I did, and my viewers enjoyed watching it. I also spoke highly-ish about the server while I was streaming. I wish you guys the best of luck and hope to see nothing but improvement.
     
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    You were told that your solution to the issue was incorrect because it is incorrect - as simple as that. We are more than capable of reading and interpreting the error messages we get.
     
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    In the end it will be MapleMap. Don't believe me - that's fine. You fix maplemap and you will get more than 12 hours of uptime before you need to restart.

    But again - Like I said, I don't truly care about that. I only wish the best for you guys and I really hope your professionalism gets better
     
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    Would you mind posting the screenshots of this GM disrespecting players?

    I know what you are going to post.
     
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    I trust that you do, and no I will not bother because, like you stated, you already know of it. I have no quarrel with you, and I do not wish to spread those things. I simply wish you would be more professional. That is all. I do not wish to see anybody lose their place.
     
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    Even though I've spoken loudly about this servers stability issues in the past (and it's sadly had a lot of it lately), they aim for 100% uptime, not a server restart every 12 hours. We don't want a server that lasts flawlessly for 12-15 hours and then goes bonkers. We want one that stays connected 24/7 and restarts maybe once a week. So I don't think your fix is correct.
     
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    The past 2 weeks I've been playing, I've come across two GMs with minor problems and they've been nothing, but kind and patient. I'm hoping with just these two encounters do not mean that it was out of luck and the GMs are what you say.
     
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    ...

    Because there is more than one side to this, and I wouldn't want new players looking at this and thinking that this is a bad server...

    A few things you said in chatbox that were just really annoying to people...

    Actually, when the server is broken, people log off client side, but not server side. When the server is actually rebooted, they get "logged off" server side too.

    Having lots of GM's is a good thing...

    I VERY VERY strongly suspect that it is this (not the other comment you claimed it was) that lead to your chatbox ban. The staff had already told you that your suggested fixes were incorrect, and that they could see the error logs and you could not, yet you continued to hammer the point and treat them like they were stupid.

    If you actually do know very much about software development, you will know that error logs are essential to find bugs. Intuition is great for knowing roughly where to search for bugs, but error logs provide concrete evidence and data.

    Oh, and Daniel called you a jack ass because you WERE being a jack ass. The GM's don't care if you claim to have 7 years of maplestory development experience. That doesn't mean you can debug their code without seeing the error messages. When you insist you can, it's gonna piss them off.

    The worst programmers are often the ones with the biggest annoying egos. I wouldn't be surprised if you were actually a really useless programmer. For sure it sets off alarm bells to me that you don't understand the importance of error logs...


    I don't think this server was for you anyway. Good luck with where ever you go now.
     
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    The GMs I've seen here are one of the most hardworking and friendly I've ever seen. You may think that they are unprofessional, but they are not.
    Judging by the comments, you really are a d-bag. What makes you think that you can so flawlessly handle the server? What do you have to tell them they are unprofessional?
    Why 13 GMs? You know how rude that sounds? You have an overinflated, arrogant ego, to say the least.
    Well then, goodbye.
     
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    You keep saying your trying to be nice, but your tone isn't very friendly at all. Also, donators have it easy with GMs? Now that is a load of shit. Just be nice and talk to them and they'll be okay with you.

    Good riddance
     
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    This (former) player is entitled to his viewpoint. I think that, while we are all still here and thus probably enjoy the server as it stands, there will always be things we can improve upon, and he was simply pointing them out. He had his standards of what he expected of us, and we didn't live up to them. At some point in the future, we hope that this type of situation no longer arises.

    I will mention that our server pride seems to be going strong, and the fact that people defended our server and the way it's run speaks wonders. <3
     
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    I can attest to this
     
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    My problem was not with the view point itself, but the way it was expressed
     
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    I would just like to say that although we welcome suggestions as to what might be the cause of any server malfunctions, someone who insists they know best when they're actually wrong isn't what we need while we're trying to fix problems.

    We're the ones who know what has been changed recently and therefore what the problem might have stemmed from. We're also more than capable of reading and interpreting server terminal errors. We also know how what changes we've made in the past, what problems we've had in the past, and to what extent any current problems resemble past problems that we have previously fixed. Please try to understand and accept that whatever dev experience you might have, you don't have the same access to detailed information about our server that we do. Do tell us if you think you know what might be causing certain issues, but please let us take it from there unless we ask you for further or more detailed information. Thank you.

    As for us favouring donators, that simply isn't true. We greatly appreciate players supporting our server and we would struggle to keep the server actually up and running without donations, but we do not show favouritism towards donators. I'm sure David isn't the only one who can attest to this! Both donators and our friends are bound by the rules of the server, and the same also goes for us as members of staff. We might not be perfect and we might not be 100% consistent, but we strive to do our best and to improve things where improvement is needed.

    Anyway, as the thread starter has now left the server, I feel it's best to close this thread and move on.
     
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