A fleshed out argument? It's hard for me to take you seriously when you attempt to bait like that. I still stand by what I have written. There would still be min-maxing, just with class equipment. But please, don't twist my words. My proposal was not necessarily to get rid of substats, but to get rid of substat requirements on weapons and armour. Altering secondary stats to have a purpose for every class was something I brought up later. As a last note, don't take a MapleStory private server so seriously. My suggestion is not a personal attack on you or the server.
How long? because when i began playing in late 2014 they did not exist. Either way, all maple weapons seem to do is make the regular weapon up until and a little above that level completely obsolete.
I'm sorry my posts appear very accusatory, but I am very passionate about this server. I do think that removal of stat requirements would ultimately turn out to be negative, but I really wish you would defend your stance better. I just feel that overall you aren't being specific enough with what you want. I was under the impression that you wanted substats removed entirely, because when they removed substats from maple in 2012, that's what they did. And that was fine for them because they removed the need for them all together, not just on equipment. At best, removing substat requirements for equipment will probably just be kinda awkward for the current player base of maple and a majority of the player base would have to re-do their equip loadouts almost in their entirety. Not trying to bait or anything. Sorry, but my text doesn't really convey emotion that well. I legitimately desire for you to create a full length argument with consideration to every single class so we could have a fair back and forth.
They've been available since the anniversary event that started when I joined in 2014. Possibly before then, I don't know. But definitely in 2014 onwards.
Warrior end game is 4 Dex base regardless of the weapon of your choice for all 3 classes (hero, drk, and paladin). It is not terribly hard to have pure attack glove shoes cape, and have 120 Dex with 4 Dex base to use ST. It is certainly a challenge, but that's the fun of it and it isn't hard. Long story short this will make warrior more obsolete because it will give classes like NL a huge end game dps boost while handicap warriors. If you want balance removing secondary stat is the last thing you want.
