Why ~bosshp should be brought back & nostalgia vs gameplay

I think the biggest takeaway from this is, here's something we had before which is now gone and more people than not aren't happy about the change and want it back. It's different than asking for something new to be added, this is something we used to have in the game (for 3+ years) and know exactly what it's like meaning there's no risk in re-implementing it especially on such a small matter like bosshp. When this many people are opposed to it why not just add it back?

 

This was the same stance on the FM button & was ultimately taken away regardless.

 

Which should also be brought back along with many other things

 

I don't think you really have the numbers to say that with any certainty.

As to the whole "people who don't like it can just not use it", it really boils down to you either have to, or you're out. It might not be as extreme as wanting to boss on a Pally or Mage and being booted because you're not needed and therefore if you don't like that, play something else, but if you're in a boss run and you refuse to use bosshp you might get booted, and why? Well the same why could be used to ask "why should I have to use it?" Most people will say "That never happens", but come on, if it's so important, it's not gonna be an issue?

People will get along just fine without it, and new players not having ever used it, will be no worse (or better) off.

 

In all the time I've been on this server and bossing (Which is over 2 yrs worth) not once have I ever seen someone booted from a boss run for NOT using ~bosshp, just saying. There's never been this "you MUST use ~bosshp" rule anywhere. There's been "You should follow this plan, your class starts at this body part, dont die" but that was it.

 

Has been talking about the optimal form to do HT run without the command "bosshp" and mentioned that this would be to form a known party and thus calculate the times to stop attacking certain parts of HT, this way could include someone new to the party that has a dps similar to the one replaced and of course that he shares the way to run, which does not imply that they have to expel somebody, it is about choosing beforehand your companions. If the command returns people who do not want to use the command "can continue to make" their runes this way.

 

I'm not saying it happens, I'm more expressing concern over an aspect of the game that could potentially lock people out because they don't want to use it.

IMO, a better fix is removing the problem prompting the need for ~bosshp, which OP outlines as mass dispel and seduce. Much like zakums attack that reduces you to 1 HP (which is a different point of contention for me), they do absolutely NOTHING to making bosses difficult. This isn't WoW, bosses in Maplestory have no tank/heal roles and there's no environmentals (Don't stand in the fire!), it's a pure DPS and a matter of gunning the boss down fast enough to not get booted by the timer.

Removal of mass dispel/seduce is no more "nostalgia breaking" than having bosshp added. Just curious, would that be sufficient enough for people? Doing so wouldn't harm the difficulty of bossing. Heck, I'd even settle for all cures actually doing what the name suggests.

For the sake of transparency, I'm equally for the removal the buyback and other commands, but that doesn't really have a place here to be discussed

 

If the whole reason behind removing ~bosshp was to bring back the nostalgia, That is definitely not what is going to happen.
I Am already hearing about Nightlords forming small groups of 4 Night Lords,1 SE mule, and 1 HS mule to attempt Horntails. The nostalgia would obviously be ruined if this happens. The real nostalgia is having parties of different classes and not one class which dominates it exclusively.

Please bring back ~bosshp, even if it's just for Horntail - It will only be for the server's benefit.
I will finish with a phrase:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

How are these groups forming if HT hasn't even been implemented yet? Furthermore, with HT not working the same way it did in the old source, it probably wouldn't be wise to exclude a certain class or strategize until the server actually sees how HT acts with new source.

 

Iunno I'm just hearing players talking about how any other class is not worth playing in HT anymore.

 

Because it seems that someone (staff member) spoilered that there will be something coming up at the end of this month, which lead rumours to be created around this topic. At least that's how the rumours started

 

Now I'm getting excited.

Paladin comeback confirmed!

 

And that's why rumors are just that, rumors. There is no internal (as in being given to staff or discussed as an ultimatum) date for HT being released. Kevin, among his many other things being tackled, is working on getting HT in a playable state on our Tespia testing server. This will allow staff to see how this version of HT acts, how drops should be tweaked, pretty much everything involving HT because at this time, we simply don't know how different it is going to act in this source from old source.

Again to reiterate, there is no confirmed date for HT release. It will be released when we feel it is appropriate to do so.

 

I understand where you are coming from and I don't expect an ETA for HT either. I was just trying to answer to your question as tho how are this Ht groups forming cause ironically, I got invited to one and found the rumours behind it.

 

If I'm going to be serious here. HT has been the most fun boss I have ever done. And I've only ever done it on this server. I NEVER used the ~bosshp command in the runs I went on. I killed the body parts as the leader prompted the team to do. I stopped hitting certain body parts when the party leader told us to move. Having the ~bosshp command does not exclude people who DON'T use it from parties. People talking about boss strategy in other games never cared to mention all of the ADD-ONS that those other games allow you to use. WoW has so many add-ons that you have an angry dude yelling RUN AWAY LITTLE GIRL, RUN AWAY! in your ear and a big flashing on your screen when you're standing in shit. This game is nothing like other games with bossing mechanics. Implenting the ~bosshp command gives the players a strategic advantage that we didn't have before. As I'm finally becoming a bigger and stronger NL, if I'm gonna HT in new source without ~bosshp. Cya later warriors. Don't need ya. This is MapleStory. A mindless game. 1 body part at a time now.

EDIT~ Also WoW even has an addon that gives you the bosses EXACT hp

 

I hope you realize that your party leader was using bosshp to direct where to attack

 

Nope never dawned on me.

 

In a server with free nx and godly equips and an abundance of cs/ws and everythi g else. Where apparently staff members leak Info an play favorites. No offense. But what more could you want? Should horntail also drop perfect scrolled gear and drop whites and chaos? #royals priveledge