Okay, I've been fighting for GS2 maps for the longest time without even knowing what qualifies a user to "claim" that map as their own (meaning all other attackers are considered to be ksing). I've been hearing different stories like: - If that user was in the map, whether they were attacking or not, then that map is theirs. - If the players in the map were present but afk and there are no monster drops anywhere on the map, then you have the right to claim it. Which is true? And if there are any extra details i'd appreciate it! Thanks!
Had the same issue. GM told me: If the player did not attack for 2 minutes, the map becomes on one's, and the first one to attack any mob on the map becomes the owner. There is a program that tracks this in every map.
The first bullet point is incorrect, the second bullet point is correct. If a player is in the map not attacking yet there are drops on the ground, wait until the drops on the ground disappear. Once the drops on the ground disappear you may start attacking. The map is now yours. I hope this answers your question.
Just to be safe, you could attack one monster and wait for the loot to disappear. Thanks everyone for your replies!
What if the drops disappear but you're not actually afk- just distracted with somethign? Whether that's something irl (such as talking to a parent/partner/sibling) or what not, someone comes in and you come back in a few seconds after and explain "I'm not afk, just distracted, I'm still using the map just need a moment". Wouldn't the map still technically be yours? I've had it happen where I got distracted for ~5 minutes or so and the drops disappeared, though I had 2 friends sitting in the map with me hanging out. They both tried to explain to the other person, (and so did I) that I wasn't afk, just distracted with something, and yet they still tried to take the map. (Eventually they stopped and moved on, I ended up having to go do something on my main account anyway and let them have the map after. But at that moment, it felt like KSing because I was still using the map)
They're completely different. One is away from keyboard, not at the computer. The other is literally distracted with something- I wasn't looking at that screen because i was in an IM on skype. Lol. Totally different.
I would consider them the same because in both situations you're sitting in a map not attacking anything. How would a GM be able to tell the difference anyways? Everyone could just claim that they weren't afk and that they were distracted.
GM Tommy told me it's actually a 3 minute timer for them being AFK. The whole "drops disappear" thing is just a way to measure that time. Not really different at all IMO. Alt-Tabbing to check something on hidden-street is AFK. Talking in a skype window and not playing the game is AFK. If you're not actively doing something in the royals, window, then you're not actively using the map. If you're not using the map, you're AFK from royals whether you're actually at your keyboard or not. Of course, to keep the from becoming a problem you could probably just use windowed mode?
I know the GM's have a map ownership command; why not allow players to use it as well? Numerous other servers have had it and it certainly helps solve disputes.
I really don't see the difference. Either way, you are not killing monsters. It is not up to the GM's to decide if you were actually away from the computer or not. As someone else already mentioned, everyone could just claim that they were distracted.
I guess just to make it simple and straightforward so that we're all on the same page- if you're away from your map for over 3 minutes, then you've rightfully lost your claim on the map. No excuses. It's just not yours anymore. That way, it doesn't get complicated. No one needs to pull out a bunch of excuses from their butts just to prove that they can stay in a map. It's just unnecessary.
Does this whole thing apply to maps significantly larger than a Ghost Ship room though? For example, I kind of wholeheartedly reject the idea of one person owning a channel of Forest of Golem. Because that's just unacceptable levels of selfish. That map supports a minimum of three.
the owner of the room (the person who was there first or took ownership from an afm-er) decides how he or she wants to train, and with how many people. You can wait for the map patiently or train somewhere else. If the owner requests that you leave, then you must. Or face the possibility of a ban for harassment or ks-ing
