Inconsistency and banning people over petty things wasting time on real issues

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    Hi,

    There seems to be huge inconsistency between the Staff's actions against violating the ToS, I've seen people be banned for joking about RWT, "Soliciting RWT" (People who are blatantly joking) and get perma banned on the spot within 24 hrs.

    Yet when I post a thread in the report abuse section it takes 8 days for anyone to do anything - I don't even think its going to be looked at.

    I mean honestly look at this.
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    You're literally willing to ban people for saying in all chat "B>Mesos $1usd each hehexd" but not ban any real RWT/Scammers? Just the mere fact that this persons name shows up on Google search relating to RWT sites is more factual than banning people for RWT "Solicitation".

    This is actually boggles my mind.

    Why is it that Admins choose to respond to ban appeals daily over more serious stuff like this that is actually ruining the game.

    It actually baffles me with the level of priority taken, nor am I going to believe that you are receiving an intractable amount of reports that the time reviewing one report exceeds the amount of reports made.
     
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    The fact that this individual also comes up in searches as being on a hacking site...

    I think it is really unfortunate that this wasn't delt with promptly, as now those sales have probably taken place. On the flip side, they might be able to ban whoever buys lol, which would be a bonus :p
     
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    LOL... I just looked them up again on that website. They're banned on there now too. Sucks even at RWT, sad stuff lol.

    Interesting that the name change on Maple Royals basically coincides with this... Interesting...

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    And ahahahahahaha talk about paranoid. Good reason to be! Screenshot (2).png


    Wow, it makes me SO ANGRY that people even do this kind of thing. I see why the staff have to be so strict on it -- it's a nasty infestation, and it's a big thing that made GMS intolerable to play.
     
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    Just because your thread isn't responded to in Report Abuse does not necessarily mean action wasn't taken. As a matter of fact, the IGN in that guy's Royals forum profile was permanently banned for suspicious activity on October 9, one day before you even made your thread.
     
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    I've been talking about such thing with guildies days ago.
    Some bans I've seen the appeals are pretty soft compared to the penaulty they got.
    I know the ToC says you shouldn't even make a "RWT solicitation",
    but some cases that could be just a joke, or even a mistaken used word, still served a permanent ban.
    It sounds like you should walk on eggs while playing this game, because every single word can take you out.

    I know it takes time, I've been a GM in another game before, but we are not only players, we are guests on your company.
    Sometimes a GM should sit in the player spot and think harder before doing something.
     
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    How about this - don't say anything that can get you into trouble in the first place?
     
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    That's what I mean with "walkin on eggs"...
    If you guys didn't take everything so serious, we could have fun without that worry in our shoulders.
     
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    Believe me when I say we really understand the players as we are players ourselves. It's exactly that we know certain things cannot be said, that's why we don't say it at all (GMs are not immune to ban, btw...)

    I do agree that the rule is abit strict, but it's only because we've no other choice, but to enforce such rules as to ensure players don't really deal in RWT (or even have the intention to do it).
     
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    Not only the RWT rules fit to this discussion.
    I've seen before someone been banned for bad speech, because he was talking to a friend at FM and said a N word, and someone else saw it and reported.
    It was not directed to anyone, was just a conversation with a friend, and boom.
    It's only 3 days, yeah, but he didn't deserve it.

    We should care about this, because someday it could happen to us.
     
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    It has been said time and time again. The N word being said in public is not tolerated. Period. Whether you agree or disagree, use the word all the time or once in your life, Matt has decided that he will not allow that word to be used. He’s the owner and that’s his decision.
     
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    Everyones mentality about being able to be banned about anything = this
     
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    Are we, though...? Every time this exact discussion shows up in the Feedback section it always devolves into this unfounded sense of entitlement that players can do whatever they please on this server.
     
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    It's not like you could do whatever they please, the point of this topic is that some bans receive a really thought punishment over something really soft,
    sometimes not even intentional. And in the meanwhile there are people doing things that deserves a ban, and nothing happens. (Or takes too long to happen)

    If you, intentionally, poop on the market's floor, you deserve to be banned from that market and never be allowed to go there again, even if you're a good customer.
    But if you didn't do it on purpose, maybe you were just sick, why'd they do that? They'd be just losing a good customer because of an accident.
    Believe me, true story.
     
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    This analogy is not valid because it is comparing an involuntary accident with a constant choice. You can't accidentally type stuff, you are making a conscious decision with every line you type. The real world has similar consequences, there is no such thing as accidentally being abusive or saying stuff that is considered illegal (e.g. joking about a crime in a way that one could wonder if you would actually commit said crime). What do you think would happen if you were not thinking and accidentally said "I'm going to murder my ex" to somebody? Do you really think that'd be ignored?
     
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    dude, gm's are banning people for talking about MEALS in smegas, so wtf. Actually, u don't have free speech in this game.
    btw, ur thread will be close. lol.
     
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    Free speech applies to freedom from persecution by the government, not from the consequences of your speech from other people and private businesses. Also, hate speech, and things aimed to bring a person down purely on ethnic, cultural, and racial lines aren't covered by free speech in the first place.
     
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    That's also wildly out of context and you know it, lol
     
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    If we want to keep this thread continuing in a constructive manner, we should not be using this thread as an additional ban appeal for a particular case.
     
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    The name of this thread is "Inconsistency and banning people over petty things wasting time on real issues" so people have to talk about what things consider "petty" and what things are a real issue so if not, what the point of this thread?
     
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