Reduce spawn / drops for the Ulu maps.

That’ll work too.

 

Actually you can make 70m at ulu1 (I test this) and if you do genesis + teleport you can do almost 80m for npc (NOT COUNTING THE RARE DROPS)
And i think the spawm / drops itsn't the problem-- The real problem its the sell amount of price of this at NPC.
I see you point wish its No effort no money, but keep in mind as a new player this actually help alot, specially for the genesis (actual) price at the moment.

I think if you wan't to nerf it, you should nerf the sell rate at NPC, wish its should be acceptable (i guess).

 

Your statement is entirely irrelevant to my post. Just because a price in the old source means the same as a higher price in the new source doesn't negate the fact that people aren't willing to invest over a year of their free time gearing up so they can farm properly.

 

There is a difference though between farming properly and being able to farm the most efficient way in the game. A f/p mage can easily be made 130. Is it fair that people who put in years of effort are able to farm at the same rate as someone who started a week ago?

It would be more logical that higher maps than ulu where you need a lot more magic to 1hit, give you a better reward. If you compare ulu to some maps with bad exp but very nice drops it would be logical. ulu1 and 2 are however nice exp (a bit lower then ideal but still very nice) AND better money

 

reinvented the damn wheel, mages always had and will have the upper hand when it come down to efficient farm (money making)..
even with 2hit they can still make x5 time faster farm then any other job no matter the map..

you want nerf for the way mages make money and disguised it as solution for mesos issue feel free to do so..
i just gonna call it for what it is!
a bad joke!..

many other high level maps can replace the META ulu maps for good farm..
what will you do then, ask for another lower spawn / drop rates???

back to the matter in hand.
""chair gach we recently had that was removing ~100b mesos per day from the server is on grounds of what we need""

a real solotion for meso problem is not how to nerf the way mages make money, the solotion is how to make people spent it on A service / product from NPC.
take mesos from players without effect the economics

id say start with little things like:
take off the Merchants shops from cash shop and let players buy them for mesos from NPC in FM.
if Store (7k NX) last 7days
people should buy Store exclusive from NPC for 25m-35m for 7 days..
and 45m-55m for 14 days..

also, same thing can be done for other stuff like gachapon Rare pets, get random legendary pet for 200m-300m or even more i'm just spitball numbers here.
[id easily pay 500m++ for good looking pet no problem..]

those are the little steps for the direction they need to aim for..
not mess around in the drop rate, spawn rate or as i saw around here "lower the sell price of items in npc" - .-`

 

This incluyed leech service as well right?

 

no.

in leech money move from player to player, mean money still remains in the game (minus small tax.)
what i mean is, npc "take" the money = mesos destroyed..

this way they can balance and control the inflation..

Edit:
and what i mean by service:

let's say you want to go from Ellinia to Orbis
as for right now, you buy ticket once for about 5k..

the idea of service is, bring back the travel time + wait for ships.

you buy normal ticket for 5k that last 7days.
(travel time + wait for ships.)

or

VIP ticket for 50m that last 7 days.
this ticket will allow you to move from Ellinia to Orbis.
(no wait for ship and no travel time..)

and they can play around with the prices to "balance and control the inflation.."

 

I'll link this idea https://royals.ms/forum/threads/meso-sink-raise-the-price-of-potions.106498/
to this topic
And make a new one for you guys to think about...

Instead of messing with spawn rates/drop npc prices/making npc stuff expensive
Why don't the server lower the MESO drop rate.

As a ulu2 mage, you probably get something around 10~15mil per hour ONLY FROM MESOS.
Keep the equip drops which are needed somehow (people need those cravens for the thousands of new NLs every day)
Non-mage players also make more money from equip npc'ing than mesos itself.

It's a win-win .

 

u said it yourself u just want to lvl. heres the thing petri and skele gives 2x the amount of exp ulu 1/2 gives. now lets look at the possibilities u got lets say u can get about 100mil an hour at ulu 1 from both npc items and leech u should get about the same amount or even more from petri if u are a bishop i mean u can sell a skele leech for about 60-80mil add up the npc items u get like 110mil+ an hour its the same thing u just get more exp sure u have to be stronger but that comes with the exp.

 

Dislike from my side!

 

Dude, just a quick question:
Who in this amazing world wants to sit for more than 2h+ pressing one button instead of enjoying the life?
-What I think?
I think, if u gonna waste your time, must have a good profit.

I've never sold leech b4 ggwp.

 

how is this topic become something about LEECH!?

 

because selling leech = $$$? incase u havent figured it out yet

 

In my opinion it's too early to try this (and a lot of other) suggestion just yet . Wait and see how the economy reacts when HT is back / APQ (apples) / NX being dropped from bosses etc

 

but not everyone has the time/determination to farm
Reducing the spawn may make "newer" players earn less, but what about the "older" players that had actually invested in magic eqs/failed sb

 

Lf> dislike button

 

are you for real with this?
facepalm never fitted more than this very moment!

mesos sink has nothing to do with the concept of leech !
yes, during leech Mages MADE mesos by sell loot to NPC, but to take into account the mesos the seller made from solo/split sale is just not related to this topic.

this entire thread created for the nerf of spawn and drop rates, so less mesos will BE MADE by mages in a meta maps..
leech is not how you made mesos its just a transition from player to player.

i can't BELIEVE i had to explain this. - .-`

 

Again, if spawns and drops weren't changed from old source, there is no reason to change anything as nothing but the cost of leech/popularity has changed. The reason leech keeps coming up is because altering drops/spawns hurts everyone, and is neglible to mages who can still make a large majority of their mesos from leech. I get it isn't "creating" mesos, but you have to wonder where the leeching mesos are coming from. Either 1) people make their money on non-mages, like bossing/grinding enwhich case this hurts then, or 2) EVERYONE has a mage and farms, but then, why would they buy leech if they can just leech themselves?

 

Wow what, I don't know what server you play in, but since when is split ulu 1/2 leech 45m? LOL Also even if the changes were made, leech price would probably go up to compensate for lack of NPC money, making it harder for new players to be able to afford leech. There's reason why ulu 2 split is cheaper than lets say, Master Chronos leech even if its harder to 1 hit ulu 2 (Obviously); that's because the NPC money makes up for it, and makes it even better.