v.83 Discussion, potentially updating?

As we all know, MapleRoyals is known for its nostalgic ways. We also all know that the server was once contemplating upping the version to v.83... the real question is why didn't it? Many people love the way the server is but let's be real with each other, what much is there to do? We all play this game for a reason but what about when we run out? v.83 gives us almost a whole new meaning to the game. So many pro's as compared to Cons. The one's that might be most favorable are the new classes, Aran's and then Cygnus Knight's. Not only would the competitiveness increase but i feel like it could also bring in more popularity to the server. Code wise v.83 is more known and it can bring, in my opinion, NEEDED change to the server. Item mega phone's, new-more creative hairstyles, SoK, hammer's, bosses, belts; bbb.hiddenstreet.net will be more accurate, a LOT of item's will be introduced. I take into consideration that some of these "Pro's" to me could be Con's to others but guys, ToT and Ulu city were introduced to us. Majority looked forward to it and that shows that the staff wants to do what they can to upgrade the server as well as better our experience. They would want to upgrade just as much as us. With all of this in mind, what would your decision be? Would you like an upgrade? Can you think of Con's? Why should it be upgraded? How would you feel about the upgrade?

 

I thought Royals won't be going to v83?

 

It didn't happen because the source that was used was really really really buggy and would involve a lot more coding to fix, when the current v62 server needed (and still needs) it's own fixes.

And I believe there was a factor involving the low amount of people we had on at a time?

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discussion man, what do you guys think?

 

I think a huge con would be the amount of work/time it'd take to do this. Not just that, it'd also take away a piece of simplicity and oldschool feel it has. The game we have atm has 5 classes. If we'd go up to v83, we'd have aran and cygnus knights. Another 6 classes to play. With this also the "need" to make a certain class to boost your main char is also there. (cygnus knights' blessing)
Personally I'm fine with more content, like cwkpq, malaysia, or anything else that adds something to the game without losing the oldschool feel, but more and more items + more classes is not the path I'd like to see this game take.

 

I agree, the charm of the server is it's old school feeling.

 

Also, we have to keep in mind that a wipe would be needed to do this. Is the community really ready for a second wipe in less than a year?

 

There are a multitude of reasons I can think of on my own as to why upgrading to v83 would not be in our best interest. First, as Christine spoke to, the source we chose to go with was VERY buggy and required LOTS of work to get it even close to the level of completeness our current source has. Now granted, the source we had used is receiving an upgrade from the creator which would greatly enhance the source, but still a lot of work would have to be done.

What would that mean? Well, it would mean that ALL development on the current code would stop. If we were to go to v83, 100% of the staff's efforts would be going to the setup and alpha testing of the new code. That would mean less time to assist you, the players, and no bug fixes whatsoever as our development team would be solely focused on releasing v83. This would turn many players away right there.

Second, we're in a niche "market". There are very few v62 private servers around. Off the top of my head, I can only think of 3 others and we are by far the most popular of the four. I would feel comfortable in saying that MR is the big fish in a small pond. However, if we were to migrate to v83, we would then become a not-so-big fish in a big pond and potentially find ourselves losing players either due to their disgust at us changing versions, or the fact that there may indeed be a better v83 server out there.

The ONLY option I personally (cannot speak for anyone else) would consider as of right now, is the possibility of creating a second server that runs on a different version and form almost like a Maple network. The idea in and of itself sounds great and would likely draw more players into our community. However, you then run into the issue of developer and staff resources. We would need to close to double our staff size to be able to handle the amount of work required to run two game servers.

Nonetheless, there is my opinion on this whole issue. I'm sure other staff members will come along and weigh in as well.

 

Aran and Cygnus can easily be disabled.

Only con would be the time and skill necessary to do it.

A staff member from my favorite v83 server (which shut down) is opening a v62, presumably because the 83 source takes too long to get playable.


I'd rather see this version get fixed.

 

I absolutely agree with this.

What do you think about Kreupels suggestion? Adding a few things, but not go as far as to add new jobs.

 

John pretty much summed up my opinion about this; including the Maple network bit. I do believe this is an idea worth discussing (running a 2nd MR server with v83), but again, this would come with a lot of consequences, some of which John pointed out. If this were to be discussed, I think we should make a more detailed thread and discussion about it. I don't know how many people like the idea of a 2nd v83 MR server, anyway... But a wipe for v83? No. It would make that one thing that makes MR so special completely disappear; the fact that it's a unique (v62) server.

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Edit:
@ Kreupel and Yoshi, they've already added a lot of custom content from higher versions (donator shop, ToT and Ulu), and have announced that they will continue doing this if the community wants this. For example, the v86 skill tables to balance the jobs.

 

I think v62 do bring the nostalgia feeling, and i agreed the staff are working relatively hard to bring ulu and ToT.. Not to mention they have to help us whenever the server are down even though they may have RL obligations other than be there 24/7 so we can enjoy playing MR.. Im happy to say MR has come a long way and now the best v62 i ever play, kudos and thanks for all the Staffs, your effort really paid off.. The growing community is like WOW, im happy to be part of the Achivements, but sadly one will never be happy with what we are having, im not against the idea, but a few new maps ie Malaysia would be great but not more classes.. Lastly, lets make the community the best ever, even though they are some bad eggs among us, no pun intended.. I made alot of friends here, some old and new players even though i dont really know them all, but i do appriciate all of them for making me feel back the old nostalgia like i used to back then.. We let the Staffs decide what's best for the server and applaude them for their hard work, Thanks MR Staffs and all the community <3 u guys,, Cheers Buddy..

 

The only thing I liked about v83 were CK and the new skill effects, really. The rest was eh. I would list Aran, but I haven't seen a single private server fix his bugs ever.

 

I'd rather have no new classes and have newer content slowly implemented than just jumping up a version.

 

Don't think anyone is looking for this.

Based on the poll it's quite safe to say people would much rather keep it this version than upgrade to v83.
The royals game is great as it is. Here and there we need and do get improvements and new content.
Personally I feel we shape this game as in what the players and staff want it to be, instead of sticking strictly to v62 only. Which I think is great.
For example the addition of ToT and Ulu recently. Very nice and good quality update which really adds to this game without ruining the oldschool feel. (also by taking out the reverse/timeless stuff)

 

I dislike the Network idea, just focus on improving what we have, no one is complaining.

 

I like the idea but I'd rather just have a v83 as a second server to Royals. That being said: I'd rather have the current server bug-free (or close to it, more so than now) before v83 is even considered. Other than that:

 

The only thing wrong with 62 is the piss poor skill balancing.

 

Don't you think MapleRoyals will stand out even more when it implements stuff like CWKPQ in a v.62 environment?
Just throwin' an example there, but you get my point. I'm not saying the actual jobs have to be implemented, but I'd love to see some maps / PQ's getting implemented without the post-bb damage table.

The wise man has spoken.

 

I think that's definitely something to consider (just like adding ToT and Ulu was) but only after the content we already have is running 100% properly, so that's a way into the future.

If anything, we might have a discussion about rebalancing skills (bandits pls) at some point in the future - as far as I remember, THAT was the actual topic of discussion for upgrade, no the server in general, but to go as far as a full upgrade to v83 is just not something I would be interested in.