FP, IL or Bishop

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  1. nahhs
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    Hello everyone,

    I would like to ask which mage is the most efficient class? My goal is to be able to fund for a NL for hp washing and leeching it until 140.

    I have read a few post in the forums and have gathered the following:
    1. Bishop - able to sell low level leech, 84-120 obtainable "free leech", but costly genesis book
    2. F/P - highest base dmg, therefore able to sell petri fastest, fastest 80-120, but no oblivion leveling
    3. I/L - able to go oblivion leveling

    For F/P & I/L, it is fine with me to have a HS mule. Oblivion level may not be a priority but just the thought of "future proofing" a mage in case I would build it up.

    P/S: Sorry if there is another thread on this! Only managed to get bits and pieces from other people's response. Would like to get some discussion/advice on this going!

    Thank you.
     
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    FP can sell ROR leech. also fast but petri beats ROR 4.
    I myself am making a i/l for the same purpose but you will need hs mules.
    Bish is the easyest if you dont get gene 20 and keep selling nub leech for ages
     
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    F/P + hs mule is the most efficient for a few reasons

    Pros
    -Highest base damage > Least funds to 1hit petri
    -Meteor is cheaper than blizzard skillbook
    -Wand5 is cheaper and more common than Wand7
    -Petri is faster than skele (bishop area) by quite a significant amount (although I am not sure by how much)
    -Ulu2 is significantly easier to 1hit as oppose to bishops
    -Poison training (if you don't have funds) is the fastest 3rd job training.

    Cons
    -Must grind for 1 hs mule (Temporary hardship vs long term rewards > This Con is neutralised)
    -Cannot do Obv leech (Low demand in this area, petri is more reliable >This Con is somewhat neutralised)
    -Cannot do low level leech (Lv120-129 is very easy to level up and Lv130 is where you equip your main wand to 1hit ulu2 > This Con is neutralised)

    Your end goal is to fund your NL. So by allocating less mesos on a mage, you can expend more mesos on equips/apresets for your NL.
     
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    Finally someone who mentions it! ~f13 I've never seen any smega-ing to buy RoR 4 leech (Even tho its better than Skeles and there's a bunch of smegas for it) or anyone selling it except myself.

    RoR 4 is a great place to sell leech (If you're in between Ulu 2 1 hit & Petris 1 hit) since its equal/better than Skeles so you can charge the same amount of money. Drops there are also decent, making NPCing good or if you get good stat equips worth selling. Only problem is that you have to get someone to door your HS mule there, but after that you can just leave it there and its fine.
     
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    1-4mil exp per hour. Depends on the seller's level and buyers' level
     
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    ^what clapyouhat1 said.

    Although there is still one advantage to bishop first char, introduces you to server if you haven't played in a while or never played, heal training does not require pots, can get free leech, can use bishop to train fp+hs which can be quite time consuming if done separately and without funds imo.
    Also you have a bishop if you wanna go boss in a supportive role.
     
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    Thanks everyone for replying! Seems like going with FP + HS mule is still the best way to go! I shall make a HS mule first then=)
     
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    Make them at the same time and leech the other with it.
    low lvls you leech the fp with the cleric and when hitting 3rd job its the way around you leech the priest with the fp.
    Yes this is slower to do but you lvl up 2 accounts the same time without buying leech.
     
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    lol who buys ror4 leech or sells them..
     
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    If you know what you are doing its faster than petri leech.
    You can start RoR 1 at lvl 101. (better exp than ulu 2)
    At lvl 105 go Petri till lvl 111
    At lvl 111 RoR 5 is faster than petri (yes the map has a boss, should not effect you)
    Now you can stay at RoR 5 or find a i/l arch and go to OB 1 till 120.

    These maps are cheaper to buy leech in than petri you you get more exp and save money.

    Why do people still prefer to buy at petri? Smaller map and easyer acces.
     
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    Id like to mention that unless the buyer has completed the ToT quests up to the map you are leeching in, then dooring them to the spot is technically glitch abuse and will be patched over in the future. Something to think about when considering what mage to go with.
     
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    That's something new to me! I hope people that don't know about this won't get banned for their first offense.
     
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    I've sold it several times and everytime people bought at my first smega. ~f17

    Actually, RoR 4 would be better than RoR 5 due to the map layout; I never tried selling leech at RoR 5 tho due to the reason mentioned. And from the tests I've did, RoR 4 is slighter better than Skeles, and since Skeles is behind Petris, I'd put RoR 4 in between them. Only reason to sell leech at RoR 4 would be because: you can't 1 hit petris yet. Only reason to buy leech at RoR 4 would be: You don't feel like spending too much for Petris, so instead of Skeles, you get something better at the same price.

    Oh shit seriously? ~f6 From what I remember in GMS, dooring in ToT worked too but you were simply stuck in the map you were doored to (Like in Royals atm). Well that's kinda sad to hear, because by fixing this glitch people will definitely stucked to Skeles or Petris for high level leech.
     
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    @PurePoisonXD we as mages could always sell ToT map service. 999 kills for a x ammount of mesos XD

    ezpz
     
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    Mhmm true. But only the super rich people would bother with it. You'd have to pay for 10+ maps clearance (That takes time too) + pay for the leech once you get there. Unless play on leeching a lot at higher levels, this isn't really a good investment to make. I could see this working for Obv 4 tho, but not RoR maps since they're just a bit better than Skeles.
     
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    Well Ob4 is the best mob exp ingame. Most classes just boss yes but what do they after zak and krex? Leech Ob4 :D

    PinkBean hype tho? that also req all maps cleared + extra quest done
     
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    Sorry for the confusion that I caused with my original post. My intention when replying to this thread was to make the point that dooring low level characters will not be possible in the future and that should be considered when choosing your job if it concerns leeching at ToT.

    I'd like to clarify that as Staff has taken an active stance to not ban anyone dooring mules and leechers to ToT in the past, that this has not changed. When this is fixed, it is likely that all invalid characters will be warped to Three Doors or another appropriate map.
     
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    So it looks like:

    HS + F/P Mule is best, but how long would this take to make both? Also, is there a reason people are told to go bishop first to make money, i don't seem to see the logic if its better to make a F/P + HS mule combination.
     
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    bishop you don't have to multi client. For people playing on a 15 year old laptop (like me) that can only run one thing at a time is why i chose to make a bishop. also people will take you on boss runs. most mages have to pay for things like zhelm and HT neck
     
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    I guess going F/P + HS mule is easier as F/P can use elemental wand 5 to get a % advantage for fire skills. In addition, skill book 2 is cheaper (10m vs 1b). Overall, its easier to achieve higher attack and 1 hit monsters sooner.

    Do correct me if i'm wrong!=)
     
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