Time for a farewell that not many would've expected, especially not in this way.

Discussion in 'Introductions and Farewells' started by Dimitri, Nov 27, 2017.

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  1. Zenoooo
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    A few ppl said it's not ok including a GM and u pick the pushover. DECENT.
    so tell me how should Tim reply to this thread https://royals.ms/forum/threads/ban-appeal.108825/ ?
    not only you greediness when you exploit the bug which damaged the server economy, and now your 'self conscious' is putting Tim and other admins is a awkward situation, which i could foreseen the most dedicated admin - Tim may pull off from his admin title due to this post.[/QUOTE]

     
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    It’s not correct to be biased. Any common player would’ve been perma-banned instantly in that situation. Since he was a close friend with the Staff they considered a “temp ban” which is something worrysome because everyone should be treated with the same rules, friends or not with the Staff.
     
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    sure, you are right, there is technically nothing wrong with that. if the admins want to operate on double standards, god isn't gonna strike them down.

    they just have to be ready to face the consequences - everyone will know (and now they do know) that the staff is bias

    and what happens when the judge, jury AND executioner are all biased? you go figure that out yourself
     
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    Guys please, I did not write a farewell thread to start drama between players and me, or players and Staff.
    I just wanted to tell you guys I did something wrong and that I handed myself in and got my punishment for it, and thus I won't be around anymore.
    The situation is as it is: Did they think about the fact that they'd rather not perma ban me and rather be lenient? Yes. Did they give me a temporary ban instead of a permanent one? no. Sometimes what you want isn't what you can have, and this is a good example of it.
    I understand that the way I've worded it makes it sound a lot worse than it actually is, but it's literally just been hard for them to land a ban on their close friend, but it had to be done and so they did. I am personally happy that they did just give me the ban I deserve, as it would've else been very corrupt if they hadn't. I'm sorry if I've messed up the way I've worded it, but please people stop jumping the gun.
     
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    This in fact quite sad and 100% solidifies former concerns with the staff at hand.
     
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    Do you think this is the government or something? It is a private entity, one that doesn't even require a purchase or subscription fee. They can literally do whatever they want and be as transparent or not with their decisions. I'm surprised they are as transparent as they are because I've been on other servers that had little to no staff-player transparency.

    I had an employee who made an honest mistake, but it was a fire-able offense. However since this woman had been an employee at my family company for like 8+ years, we gave her a second chance and she worked that much harder after the fact. That was our decision. I'm sure the guy we fired like 6 months prior wouldn't have been too happy, but we made a decision we thought would be best for us, and best for our conscience.

    I don't see any player bias here. There is a difference between knowingly abusing your GM commands and randomly finding items that were once yours in the first place. I'm not saying this is right, but just as a judge might provide discretion based on the severity of the incident, that is what would have happened here.

    But it didn't happen either way so you are all making something out of nothing.

    p.s. some of you take this game way too seriously.
     
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    how much you get paid by tim or anyother staff to post this?
     
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    the only thing i agree with you on with absolutely no qualifications is that last sentence, lol

    anyway you need to understand that firstly you need to take the position of how the average royals gamer will feel when he is aware of double standards, if that average reasonable player wouldn't give two hoots about it, then Bean what you say makes sense

    however, where you are coming from is disregarding the fact that there may be players who expect the admins to be impartial - whether or not they are justified in feeling this way is another thing altogether.

    the whole point is, depending on which view you take, it may result in finding whether double standards is correct or incorrect, which is why i took a neutral view when responding to you by stating that technically they are not wrong, they can do any damn thing they want, they just have to be ready for the backlash, and by backlash it means the majority of the player base who are watching and will be forming their own opinions.
     
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    Ye you are casual enough to write hundreds of words about this
     
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    Lmao I hate you but this was funny. But seriously, I've actually never even had a full convo with any of the staff so no this isn't true haha.

    I agree. I guess I can only say that MY VIEWPOINT is that they are free to give more leniency to a long term staff member than a random player hacker. Is that really what we are discussing here? The difference between a second chance for a long term staff member vs. a player the staff probably doesn't even know? If you really think that is SUCH double standards then we just have to agree to disagree.

    It is the same argument for 'free speech' everyone likes to throw around. Sure, you have free speech, but you have to be ready for the consequences so on that part I agree.
     
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    Exactly. People feel too entitled to fair treatment while they shouldn't be. Does that justify unfair treatment? No, but there's no need for justification here. As I've said it before, your house, your rules. In this case, their server, their rules.
     
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    Equality before the law. Since this game has its proper rules and regulations, then everyone should be judged according to ToS. Makes no difference if you're a veteran or new player, a friend or a stranger.

    But we should probably put this thing to a rest and just say our farewell to Dimitri before things turn for the worse. Let's all just wish him a goodbye and be done with it.
     
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    FAIRWELL DIMITRI!! I didn't even know you well but I made it my mission to get flamed for defending you. Wooooo!

    Good luck on all your future endeavors. I'm done now.
     
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    Wow, I can't even believe what I just read. Albeit I have been very inactive on Royals for the last ~10 Months, I didn't even know such changes have been occurring until I read everything just now.

    By "changes", I mean everything from you turning 25, that you stepped away from Staff in early August, your entire situation with the prolonging of your treatment and Netherlands Healthcare screwing you over, now this, etc. Reading all of that just now is not only new to me, but also gives me help in understanding.

    I truly looked up to you in several ways. Anytime I even heard the word "Dimitri", it would bring an image in mind of a noble, principled, rigid, honorable, just, yet playful, and joking person.

    You are literally my favorite Staff Member (although I didn't get to know a lot of the Staff Members). I wouldn't bother making a Christmas Tree Decorating Event Entry in your name if it wasn't for so. That entire idea was completely mine, I only pitched the design idea to Chrizz for much needed help in creating it and obviously because he was one of my closest friends in-game. I legitimately didn't even know that there was an entry from the previous year with the same play on words. As soon as I read the Contest Thread, I immediately thought of making one in honor of your work and just who you are as a person. I didn't even bother reaching out to collect my prize from that Event yet, because I genuinely did make that entry due to admiration.

    I don't regret making that entry though. Not one bit. Even though this truth is in fruition, it doesn't really change much as to what I think of you. I can only imagine the unbearable days of torment of juggling your personal life with your symptoms. Maybe you did what you did in light of shedding some enjoyment or happiness into your life. Maybe you did what you did because it helped you "cope" with the unfair and extreme difficulties that life was throwing you. Neither of which I would agree of, by the way. But what I do know is that it takes true nobility to confess and undergo the humiliation/damage to pride of telling the truth. It takes a true character to accept the consequences in full.

    Please don't take it hard on yourself. Several players on this server have been impacted because of your work. I'll never forget the games of Cards Against Humanity, the Town Of Salem marathons, the late-night Discord conversations, "DEUS VULT"/"you like to eat euros on your pizza?!"/and all the other inside jokes, etc.

    You'll never be forgotten and I will miss you greatly.

    Sincerely,
    Sawngo
     
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    Did everyone who just posted just ignore what Dimi said?
     
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    Following the situation of where this thread has taken us to, by no necessary means do you need to bash on the Admins in a farewell thread where OP has given us clear instructions on that he does not want the thread turning into a dramatic scene. IF you were to have complaints about the route Admins took, please feel free to say so. But not where the topic can get really heated and go out of control, especially where Dimitri himself has said " I did not write a farewell thread to start drama between players and me, or players and Staff."

    Thank you for your understanding. Locking the thread due to request from OP.
     
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