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    Yes i know there are a lot of teeth hacker, but i dont suspect someone till he re-set another 200 or 400 teeth at his shop. It is impossible to suspecting someone before my buying out all gold teeth.
     
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    Yes i bought some gold teeth from hackers it seemed but it was unintended, as I said, i can never suspect someone till i buy out their teeth and i fund them.

    as i said uncountable times,I didnt know they were illegal teeth when i bought them. Care to reply to my colorful words already? It seemed kai banned me for that pitiful proof but the proof is pure speculation and nothing more.
    (His proof is this :
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    So what shouldve i done? If I had confessed I had bought illegal teeth and had said “you can remove them from me”, would you unban me?
     
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    if you reported that before getting banned we would've refunded your purchase(s) and took your teeth from you in exchange without banning you yes
     
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    Haha you finally answered to one of my colorful words. Please give me 5 minutes.
     
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    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/ban-evade.109736/
    I dont know how to quote from a different thread, so i just copy and paste. I said following words in that thread.
    “PS. I bought some teeth from him since he badly disrupt my teeth sales. If you are deleting all of golden teeth he made, Im willing to accept your deed.( Ya but i want refund of mesos then)” (Nov 29)

    Edit : please reply, i dont wanna wait another 39 hours. Lel
     
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    Oh when i get unbanned, i will always let you know if i had bought illegal gold teeth. So please dont ignore me next time.
     
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    Ok lets make it clear.
    I said,
    Then you said this,
    And I showed you the instance I reported that here:
    Why dont you unban me already?

    @Tim there is a way to know if a GM is reading the thread or not, why did you see my last comment several times but kept silent?

    @Kai Im 99% sure you read the blue sentence but ignored since you cant reply. Next time dont ban people without any decent proof, im sure you are a good event hoster, I dont want you to be a person who bans people without any proof and never admits his mistake. Im hoping you can be a good gm and get liked by a lot of people.
     
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    you bought 'some' teeth from him in that instance which is a small amount compared to the 1000+ teeth you knowingly bought from other abusers.
    your temporary ban is almost done, this serves as a warning for your knowingly taking advantage and making a profit on items that hackers farm and sell cheap.

    We're not unbanning you early because you knowingly purchased thousands of gold zombie teeth from abusers trying to take advantage of that. your temporary ban is justified. I'm not sure what other proof you're looking for since you're already admitting to your actions.
     
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    Liar, 100% people know you lied.



    Care to explain why you can determine I knowingly bought thousands of gold teeth from hackers?
    As far as I remember the case above (https://royals.ms/forum/threads/ban-evade.109736/) is the only instance I knowingly bought gold teeth from hackers and I confessed it, then you guys perfectly ignored it. Care to explain why you ignored me at that time but now you banned me?


    As I said uncountable + uncountable times, i didnt know they were hacking when i bought their teeth except the case above, and i showed my way of thinking that you can delete illegal teeth that i unintendedly bought.

    You guys said you banned me since I knowingly bought illegal teeth, but you havent explained why you could determine i knowingly bought illegal teeth yet, please explain why you could determine i knowingly bought their gold teeth after realizing they are hacking, or our argument never proceed.
     
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    Then care to explain why didn't you make ANOTHER report after realising you bought illegal gold teeth? Seems like you don't understand our point so let me make it into a scenario:

    1. You bought gold teeth from some merchant that was selling at low market price. Let's assume you didn't know it was illegal.
    2. You put into shop for profit/whatsoever purposes.
    3. You realised it was illegal and reported the players. Most of it i took actions, banned them permanently and bought all their remaining teeth.
    4. ???? Why didn't you make ANOTHER report to inform us you had bought illegal gold teeth? If you had, we would have gladly removed them and refunded you the amount.

    Now it's not a matter of how we know you "knowingly" bought them, but rather HOW you reported them for it, but bought the teeth before/after reporting them AND NOT making another report to inform us of your unintended purchase from hackers.
     
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    - We didnt ignore the report you linked here, we told you we banned them and thanked you for your report.
    - At that time you said you bought some teeth from him which wasn't a lot so we didn't take them from you.
    - You made like 7 reports on these teeth farming people over time, you obviously know what's going on and how these cheap teeth hit the market in large amounts, in the report you linked you claim that they are 'badly disrupting your teeth sales'.
    - We did a larger scale investigation on gold zombie teeth hackers and bots, and found that you bought thousands of their teeth to resell them at a higher value while your actions (making reports, claiming these people ruin your market) clearly indicate that you know what's going on with the gold teeth market and how they get there, and you knowingly participate in this market by funding these people. You did this on such a large scale (thousands of gold teeth) that we decided to temporarily ban you for benefiting from these cheaters.
     
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    you said this, so that meant you have a decent proof that i knowingly bought illegal teeth. But finally you gave up proving and said this :
    so u said u banned me for knowingly buyjng illegal teeth but now u say you banned me for not letting you know i had bought illegal teeth, care to explain this contradiction?
     
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    You really need to re-evaluate our responses and not tweak them to give yourself an advantage. Do we have evidence? Yes. Where? Logs. What else did I missed is basically in my latest respond. So do me a favor by clarifying that, instead of pointing fingers and making nonsensical claims like I "gave up", utter nonsense.
     
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    Yes you replied to the report towards a hacker, but you ignored the report that i bought illegal teeth from him.

    Another lie. Then why didnt you say something to me at that time? Why didnt you say “I wont take your teeth since its small amount.”?
    And care to explain why small amount is okay but large amount is not?
    Im 100% sure Yanir ignored my report about buying gold teeth since he was lazy. Why cant you admit your side’s fault?
     
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    Then why not showing the proof? Im sure you got no proof but cheating on me to get some advantages. I definietly need to tweak them. Its because whenever I prove im innocent about your ban reason, you will add another reason not to admit your side’s fault.
     

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