Assassin - washing.

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    Hi,
    I'm not sure whether I understand correctly whole washing thing, so I'd like to ask few questions. I have Assassin on level 12 now, and I want to achieve 6000 HP by level 155 (enough for HT, right?). So...
    1) How many INT I should have, and before which lvl?
    2) When exactly should I start to wash? I read somewhere that level 70 would be good. So since level 70, it would looks like that :
    a) Put one AP point into HP
    b) Take one point from mana and put into Luck.
    Repeat 5 times every level.
    Am I right?
    3) Will I be able to lvl up by myself? My dmg won't suffer too much?
    4) Assuming that I'll finally receive my Taru Totem which I supposed to get for BVM, and will sell this for ~550-600M, what would be the best way to spend this money on this case? Buying INT equipment, and if so, which is the most effective to buy?

    I would like to achieve higher HP, but I don't want to have too low dmg and be completely depended on leech from my (future) Bishop. Next interesting HP i 11.5k by level 175, but wouldn't it mean that my dmg would be ridiculous for most of my levels, and I'd have to leech myself up to 150 or so?
     
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    It's actually safest to have 9k for HT. It's technically doable I think with like 7.8k, but it can be risky with seduce and always needing to dark sight when getting past wings and stuff. There is a beginner's washing guide for 9k.
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/hp-washing-for-new-players.41129/

    If you look under the assassin tab, it should help you figure out how much int you need and the guide also explains the washing method.
     
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    Thanks! So if I need 9k to just survive HT, I might as well try to get 12k for (maybe in future) Pink Bean.
    I guess it will be tough thing to do, but I won't just rush with this NL, but lvl this up very slowly.
     
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    12k will also be helpful for bigfooting too since you will be able to tank a hit c:
     
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    Okay, I'm not sure whether I understand. I found out this :


    Sooo if I want 12k HP by level 175, it means... 487 total int? But even if so, by which level? I have level 12 assassin without any int (just basic 4, 25 dex and like 42 luck). Should I make another one then, and put everything into INT from beginning?
    487 total int, let's say that maybe 100 will be from EQ, it gives still 387 pure INT, so 387 AP washes to get rid of it later, not to mention HP washes (406 times), so... 793 AP resets just to have good NL? That's brutal...
    Did I made any miscalculations?
    And at which LVL would I be able to just play this NL, without Bishop? It seems like over a year of voting...
     
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    I made a HP washing calculator that's fully automatic in telling you what HP (and MP) you'll have at every level from 1-200 with the bit of information you input into the fields I explained in my thread. :D
    royals.ms/forum/threads/hp-washing-calculator.111127/


    1. That's something you have to figure out on my calculator. Put in what int gear you have or expect to have on the second sheet in the way I explained on my thread, and adjust the Total Base Int cell to compensate for the int you still need after int gear. Everything updates and calculates automatically as you change the int gear and base int you put into it. Just scroll down and see what level will have what HP!

    2. You should equip int gear and increase base int as early as possible. Night Lords gain 20-24 HP per Level Up AP, so HP washing should be done as early as possible too since you have a limited number of times you level up, and therefore a limited amount of Level Up AP. When you can't use Level Up AP, you'll have to use AP Reset AP to HP wash with, which only gives you 16-20 HP per AP Reset AP. I explained exactly what to do, step by step, in my thread under the spoiler "How to actually HP Wash and MP Wash." For Level Up HP washing, you are right, yes. It's worth looking at the different scenarios you might be in when HP washing, especially if your Current Base Int is less than the Total Base Int you need.

    3. Your damage only suffers when you have high amounts of base int, because you're diverting AP that you would've put into luk in int instead. With base int, the vast majority of people leech their characters. Grinding becomes more and more difficult and effectively impossible with more and more base int. If you just wear int gear for leveling up though, you should be able to grind and train normally, although you'll have less MP as a result because you have less total int.

    4. I would suggest buying int equipment. This person made a 9k HP clean Night Lord with 100 base int and 80-90 int in int gear. Look through the selling forum and browse the Free Market to see what you can afford.

    The reality is that with higher and higher HP, you need more and more MP which means you need to have more and more int for more and more level ups. I don't think it's possible to achieve a 9k HP clean Night Lord without any base int, but that's something you can verify yourself with my calculator. From experience, I think you are going to be dependent on leech leveling to achieve your HP goal because you are going to need base int. You should be able to achieve the MP required for your HP goal at level 135 at the latest though, which is when Zak and Krex starts anyway.

    All of your level, int, HP, and even AP Reset amount questions can be answered by my calculator. Elyss did his 9k HP clean Night Lord with 299 AP Resets though, and finished the project at level 155. The level you'll be able to play your Night Lord depends on your int gear, base int, and just you really. Most people who wash characters fund them by selling leech on their mage character, with voting only supplementing income. It takes a lot of time and money, but it's doable.

    I'm here if you have any questions! :D
     
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    Thank you for all the informations!
     
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    Okie, I did some calculations, so...
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    Let's assume, that amount of INT EQ is correct, but I'll try to get as good as possible, and then adjust total base INT to that. But regardless, in this situation :
    1) I need ~300 total INT to achieve my goal, so I should put 235 (probably just 234 :p) AP into INT during next lvl ups. 235/5 = 47+12 = 59. So I should add INT from level 12 to level 59, right?
    2) This "Total AP Resets" says how much AP resets I will need to HP wash (so LVL up > point in HP > take point from mana to luck), right?
    3) So 323 AP Resets for HP wash + 231 to take base INT back = 555 total AP resets will be needed, am I right?
    4) When should I start HP wash? At which lvl? I can't find information about that.
    5) When should I put base INT back? (I guess level 135 like it says? :p)

    Thanks!
     
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    1. Correct! You need exactly 300 Total Int to achieve your goal! This means you’d need 234 Total Base Int, and you already have 4 base int, so you need to add 230 more AP into int. This means you need to put your AP into int for 46 levels (230/5=46). So since you’re level 12, from levels 12 to 58 (12+46=58), put all your AP into int. After level 58, you can put your AP into luk like normal!

    2. Correct! Level Up AP into HP > AP Reset: -MP +luk

    3. Oops just saw that the AP Resets to Reset Base Int field formula got glitched LOL. I’ll fix that right away. 323 AP Resets to HP wash is correct and yup, your Total Base Int - 4 = AP Resets to Reset Base Int. You actually just need 234 base int, not 235, so you’ll use 230 AP Resets instead of 231 when resetting base int! This means that the total number of AP Resets you need is 553!

    4. Right now hahaha!! Add your AP into int from level 12 to 58 like said above and wear your int gear before each level up! However, read this next part carefully.

    You should do the Level Up AP into HP > AP Reset: -MP as soon as possible. You have a limited number of level ups so you have a limited number of level up AP.

    Whenever possible, put your level up AP into HP.

    If your Current Base Int is LESS THAN the Total Base Int you need,
    AP Reset: -MP +int

    Do this BEFORE you level up again.

    If your Current Base Int is EQUAL TO the Total Base Int you need,
    AP Reset: -MP +luk

    You can use the AP Resets at ANY level, so you don’t need to pause leveling at all. ~f2

    Since you have to HP wash 323 times, you need 65 levels of level up AP. (323/5=65 rounded up). So since you need to put your AP from levels 12-58 into int, put your AP into HP from levels 59-124 (59+65=124). And then you can use your 323 AP Resets to -MP +luk and 230 AP Resets to -int +luk all at once when you’re at the level you want to finally play your new Night Lord! :D

    5. Reset your base int back to 4 whenever you want to play your character with its full damage! You can select a level to reset base int by the way hahaha! Just type the level you want under that section! Most people decide to reset their base int at level 135 because that’s the level when you can start bossing! You only get the full exp from Zakum and Krexel starting at level 135. So resetting base int before this level only makes sense if you want to grind to train or kill smaller bosses like Bigfoot. The vast majority of people will start playing the character at level 135 though, and that’s when they need all their AP back in their main stat. :D
     
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    Okay, I think I understand almost everything! Except for only one thing :
    So because I've 4 base INT, and I need 234, should I use AP resets to take points from mana into int? And after leveling up :
    1) AP point into INT
    2) Take point from mana into INT
    Till my base INT will be 234?

    Thank you so much for your help, I finally understand all this washing! :)
     
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    AP doesn’t magically appear out of MP hahaha! Every character at level 200 has a total of 1030 AP. 16 of these can never be reset out of their stat. This is why every stat (int, luk, dex, and str) has a base of 4. So 1014 of these AP must be put into one of these stats or HP or MP. At level 1, you start with 9 AP to distribute and you get 5 more AP after your third and fourth job advancements. The point is, since all the AP you ever received are in luk and dex, there is no AP in MP. If you used an AP Reset, you’d see that you can only subtract luk or dex. :D

    When you level up, put all 5 of your AP into int until your have 234 base int. This means:

    Level 13-58: AP into int

    Then once your base int equals your Total Base Int, put all 5 of your AP into HP! This means:

    Level 59-124: AP into HP

    Levels 125-135: AP into luk

    Then at level 135 which is your level to finish your Night Lord, do:

    230 AP Resets: -int +luk
    323 AP Resets: -MP +luk

    553 AP Resets total

    And then you’ll have your level 135 Night Lord with all the luk you would normally have but with much more HP! :D
     
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    Now I understand everything. Thank you! I really appreciate your help, you explained everything so well :)

    Thanks!
     
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    So glad I could help!!! I know HP washing is an overwhelming process to learn at first. Really happy I could help make sure you reach your goals! Happy Mapling! ~f2
     
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