Very much agreed. If we can buy TP rocks in both FM with mesos and CS then how come other stuff that would benefit this market and not make the new players royally screwed can't be implemented or talked upon? The current meso sink is a step in the right direction but it's controversial and accomplishing next to nothing imo. Also, the fact that AP resets are inflating like never before seen is the worst thing. Newbies are totally screwed. HP washing is stressful and stupid enough. Help the little guys out and you help the economy! #untradableapresets
Unfortunately some ppl think Most Newbies are selling AP resets because they do not have time to farm. The majority of newbies play very little thus high price of AP reset benefits newbies
so uhh ap resets are 16-17m each now. Supply is dwindling. WS/CS are still astronomical because everyone is just buying personal use ap resets with their personal nx. Quality moderation boys. I'm sure the Lord's work is being discussed in admin discord.
Posting not as a staff response to this, but as a player. I 100% agree with adding AP Resets to Albert. I've seen some downsides mentioned such as it being unfair to old players who had to spend a lot of time buying AP resets and also making it harder for newer players to make mesos but I disagree with both of these things as being valid arguments as to why this shouldn't happen. It's already been stated previously in this thread but buying AP resets has never been the hard part about HP washing. Making the money is by far the most time consuming part and if anything, finally being able to buy yours AP Resets is actually a huge relief in finally having the items in hand. Please note that this is coming from someone who has bought 5000+ AP Resets to wash many different characters in over 4 years of gameplay. I don't feel at all like this would be unfair to me. As for it being unfair to new players, i'll say this: MapleRoyals is far from a server where it's hard to obtain mesos. In this sense it's much different to how GMS was back in the day. In MapleRoyals our drop rate is high enough to the point where new players can easily sustain themselves simply by grinding and leveling up normally. A new player might not be able to afford a 10 attack work glove by doing nothing but voting for a few days but is that really a bad thing? While I disagree with the arguments for not implementing this, I don't think that alone is a strong enough reason to add this. For that reason I'll list my reasons for why I think it's a good idea. - Powerful meso sink - Slow down vote abusers even more / Promoting Gameplay > AFK - Higher volume of inflated items coming into the game It's no secret that HP washing in one of the largest parts of MapleRoyals and by adding AP Resets to Albert we would be implementing the largest and most consistent meso sink that we've ever had. Inflation is a problem that inevitably happens in every game but having such a powerful sink would be a surefire way to slow it way down. The easiest way for vote abusers to convert NX straight into mesos is by buying and selling AP resets. Having a level 50 requirement on AP resets definitely slowed down vote abusers but at the cost of resets skyrocketing in price. Having a set price for AP resets in Albert both slows down vote abusers even more by making AP Resets far less attractive to buy from players and also might make it easier to spot the players who are doing this seeing as the demand for them through trades will go way down, thus putting a target on those who are selling them in mass. No matter how many Gachapon tickets you purchase and use, it's always possible to get nothing but elixirs so this promotes time spent actually playing rather than waiting days/weeks/months for guaranteed profit from AP Resets, assuming the price for AP resets isn't set too high(Or if they're untradable when purchased from the Cash Shop!!) Since having Albert sell AP Resets would greatly increase the amount of Gachapon tickets being used it would mean that there would be a higher volume of the currently inflated items coming into the game, such as Chaos Scrolls, White Scrolls, Brown Work Gloves, iTCG items, etc. Many people are disgusted that many of these items have nearly doubled in price in New Source and increasing the supply should help to bring them down to a more reasonable price. It's possible that this wouldn't effect CS/WS much since they're holding their value being used as currency but Kai hinted in this thread that something is being implemented that will cater to the issue that we can only hold such a small amount of mesos: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/extra-meso-stock.110550/#post-614417 These are my reasons for supporting AP Resets being sold by Albert and I hope that my post has helped to strengthen the support for it.
Including that they could be used as currency for high trades. Lets keep in mind several players accept AP resets as a method of payment, so having AP resets being sold by Albert and then being able to be traded to others would help people to use them as currency instead of ws/cs, helping to bring the ws/cs prices down as well. I strongly agree with Eli in the sense that AP resets from cash shop should be untrad. That way we will stop vote abusers and implement the greatest meso sink ever on the server. Staff can ALSO KEEP TRACK OF PEOPLE who buys the ap resets from albert and thus, they could monitore the server even better for signs of meso duping or abuse
I don't understand this, i thought ws and cs was mostly used in high value trades to provide saftey? like 1:1 trade if you want to trade with ap resets then we're back to the trust element and why not just trade mesos at that point?
oh true! I forgot ap resets dont stack in royals for trades u.u. If the idea were to be viable, AP resets must be traded in stacks of 100
even stacks of 100 wont get you far if you're trying to deal in just resets thats only 13-15b something like that. tbf though who would even want like 40b+ worth of resets o-o
its not like you are gonna pay in full form of resets, only if the seller agrees on a x amount of resets he needs. Some people accepts resets as payments even for small transactions, so assuming the max cap would be 700 ap resets in trade leaving 2 spaces free for ws and cs, I see this viable tbh, maybe cause I have been playin other server where resets stack and are sold in fm shops.
As a fairly "new" player: with my net worth and income being not that massivly its easyer to buy and stack up AP resets than ws/cs. Now when i get up to a X ammount of resets i can start trading those to ws/cs or even other items with steady values. I like the sound of that instead of having alot meso mules since i cant afford stacked up ws/cs to fall in price. AP will have a steady value.
Just someone please do something... Ap resets will be 20m each soon, already saw few people trying to sell for that price D: Stop the struggle </3
In addition to this, Make NX Resets untradeable! People who doesn't want to burn mesos, but NX, in order to reset their chars, could buy them. Being untradeable reduces the chance for them being used by botters/abusers.
As a fairly new player, and also rather poor in my opinion, I think Albert selling AP resets would be a great. As it stands right now I’m a ridiculously casual player, yet to even hit 4th job and pretty much solo as can be, but with the AP resets continuing to rise as much as they have been and nothing being done about it, it’s going to put the best of the best at an unfair advantage over the rest of the server because they’re going to be the only ones to be able to buy in bulk for their HP washing that you need to do to be end-game ready. Sure 16m might not seem like THAT MUCH to someone who has the funds to reset their guys no problem, those who are sitting on dozens if not hundreds of Chaos Scrolls/White Scrolls/ Brown Work Gloves/ iTCG items, but eventually it’ll get to the point where people aren’t going to be able to afford to wash anymore. 20m for an AP reset? Gets me 70 AP resets, barely even enough to reset 10 levels sort of AP. Put them into Alberts shop for say 10-12m? Now I’m looking at 116-140 AP resets, a good chunk of washing and then it’ll be more desirable to sell off high priced holding items to get more mesos to buy more ap resets. Probably won’t reduce the price of CS/WS anytime soon, but it’ll prevent people from abusing votes to get AP resets to continually drive up the price and will help further down the line for newcomers and current members alike have a hell of an easier time being able to play their characters end game.
1. in term of mesos sinking, this wont help, when u can get AP reset at a fix price from NPC, in the end u save more mesos, after that u will hv more mesos to chase after high end items such as CS and WS. So, the price of CS & WS will drastically increase. 2. When the price has increased, the only purpose of NX is just to gacha CS and WS, AP resets should always be direct liable with the price of CS and WS.
What a great gift it would be if someone on staff actually posted a real opinion on this from staff side and not just staff posting as players so that we could see whether or not the last few pages were worth anything or not... this thread is now on page 10 and the only staff posts have been fact-checking from Evan to ensure our posts are as strong as possible by debunking bad arguments, and two posts by John and Martin each early on about vote abuse and how important HP washing is on Royals. Did I mention that this thread was posted almost three months ago? Please, for the love of god, answer your feedback threads else what the hell is the point of having them.
We have considered AP resets from Albert as a potential solution to the current inflation, but we currently have something else in store for the upcoming patch that might help the situation, that we would like to monitor the effects of before further considering AP resets from Albert.
