Horntail Squad Split and Looting Guide (Working In Progress)

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    This is my attempt to suggest a way to determine horntail split and egg/htp/nx looting order to reduce the party sodium intake.

    Use the rule and do a quick questionnaire to determine the looting order for each loot categories.

    This is a working in progress. Please provide inputs and/or suggestions below.

    Squad Split and Looting Rules:
    1. You must pick one of the four looting categories prior to the run: Egg, HTP, NX, or 15% bonus split. The person with the highest score get to pick first, and so on. If there are left over loot after horntail dies, the person has the highest score in that loot category can reloot again.
    2. If tied on score, the person with higher level has the loot priority. If tied on both score and level, the party organizer will cast the tie breaking vote.
    3. Must survive to head B, where both head A and C are dead, to receive points or to receive any split.
    4. Only the main HT character can count towards the score, and mules won't except for question #3. Mule's buff don't count towards question #1.
    5. Receive -1 point for each time you die if you're not a main seduce lure. *Reserving resurrection to the seduce lure.

    Questionnaire:

    1. Do you have the listed essential party skill(s): MW20, HB, SE, Res, Echo, and/or SI?
    Yes: +1 for each skill listed above
    No: +0

    *Other none essential party skills that are not listed doesn't count.

    2. Can you character run without HB?
    Yes: +1
    No: +0

    3. Are you providing additional useful mule(s)?
    Yes: +2 for each additional mule(s)
    No: +0

    4. Your level in the party before entering the cave (excluding mules):
    Highest/200: +3
    Second highest: +2
    Third highest: +1
    The rest: +0

    *If tied on level, both received the same point.

    5. Are you the main seduce lure during main body fight?
    Yes: +2
    No: +0

    *Bishop or attacker with seduce mule counts.
    **If the main seduce lure died, the next in line receives the point.

    6. Have you looted in the same looting category (Egg, HTP, NX, or Split Bonus) in the previous run?
    Yes: -1
    No I looted in different category: +0
    No I didn't loot anything last run: +1
     
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    Level 200 bishop with 30k hp has HTP already egged..... How many points did I get teacher?
     
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    Thought being a buyer would immediately be + infinity or something? I mean, it's income... :o
     
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    So I have HS, MW20 (only one in party), dispel, holy shield, bless, heal, and Echo. Since i have level 200 bishop and went in as sed with my SI mule who also doesnt need HB. Plus i dont have an HTP but have an egg.... think I have more than 20 points! GTFO BUYERS MY HTP! ~f5
     
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    I usually just do: Buyer > First HTP > Number of useful clients > Level

    nothing too complicated xd
     
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    I picked 20 instead of infinity because I thought it's impossible to get over 20. I'll change that to infinity lol.
     
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    Edit: I tried to go by level when I'm hosting, but since I'm usually the highest level, I'm trying to find a way to reduce the sodium intake for everyone.
     
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    Buyer: GTFO learn how to count again. That's still under 20 points. ~f8~f8~f8~f8
     
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    excluding buyers i think that level is the most fair and useful way to organize the loot order by. A lv195 is likely to do less runs than a lv155.
     
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    I agree, but the issue I'm running into is I usually run with a fixed crew. If go by level that means some of the lower level regular runner may never get a chance to loot htp unless 4~5 HTP drop or the highest level retired/can't make it to the run.
     
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    If you're running with a fixed squad its even easier to do the order, just have the same order for each run and if one run drops 2 pendants then next run person number 3 will loot first. If you have a fixed squad and have all these sort of rules that you have made wouldnt the same thing occur? since fixed implies that you're all playing the same roles each run you will always have the same score for reloot order.
     
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    Fixed 3~6 members, but the same member may run as different role depending on the party's need. We usually have 0~3 random/buddies.

    And sometimes we are merging squads where squad A ran in parallel with squad B, and some people from both squads are leaving so 2nd run is a combination of squad A and B.

    Looting order then becomes messy in the combined squad.
     
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    I see how that can get messy but don't you think that there should be some kind of - points if u looted last run or + if you didn't loot.
     
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    Tada! Thank you for your input. How about this?
     
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    I'm also playing with the idea for awarding people to choose not to loot anything at all.

    Not looting by choice not because you didn't get to loot due to insufficient drops.

    My thought behind this idea is because people who doesn't need anything running for split only are losing profit for not taking buyer(s). I think it's fair for those people to receive higher percentage on the split instead of even split with people who are relooting.

    What do y'all think?
     
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    The only people this really applies to are level 200s who do not need a HTP and do not care about NX. Since everyone else does HT for exp. Since I personally do HT out of boredom.
     
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    Not necessarily. 5k NX is roughly 25m in value. Let's say the % split bonus is 15% (15% is the number I'm playing with atm).

    If 1b worth of skill books dropped, then the person choose to get split bonus opposed to looting NX will get ((1*0.97)/6)*1.15=186m, and the remaining party members get 157m each.

    If all 6 members split equally, the split will be 162m each.

    The difference will be 29m (186-157), and it's more than the value of a single 5k nx card.

    But of course there are always the case where no book drop and a lot of nx, or good book drop with no nx and minimum htp. It's a gamble either cases.

    To me it's more than reasonable for someone who is not lv 200 to pick the bonus split option.
     
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    How is HS not an essential party skill o.o
     

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