messed up on hp wash (not a math person)

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  1. crispycakes
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    So i have a CB at level 106 - I had 100 AP i saved from bombing and didn't realize I didn't use them yet. So i put it all into INT, so 100 base int right now (with no funds at all to get int equips). If I keep investing into INT until about level 130, could I reach 10k HP? Currently at 2.2k HP.

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    How much are you willing to spend? If you mp wash those 30 lvls u get a bonus of 1500 mana (assuming base 100 int). That means from washing u get about 3.5k extra hp in total for those 30 lvls.
    Then u end up at over 6k hp quite early lvls which should be suifficient for zakum, horntail, bigfoot etc with the help from meso guard
     
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    Planning to save up all my nx to wash. Are you able to show me the math, wondering why its such a big difference between 650 the first poster and yours. Because the first poster does make sense from what I seen.
     
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    I urge you not to try out my method without first letting members of the community try and find problems in it. I do not know how factual this is so I will wait patiently for replies.

    Without boring you with the math, it's impossible no matter what gear or what you do to gain 7.8k hp in 24 levels. I would just stop trying to HP wash that CB, sorry to say. Instead, you should remake a character and start having him wear INT gear (or add base INT) at level 10 after your first job advancement. That being said, getting 10k hp on a thief is hard to do by 130 but still possible. I'll let you use this as reference.

    If you want to add an extra 7,000 hp by level 130, this is how we'll do the math:
    130 - 120 = 120 levels (Assuming you start trying at level 10)

    If you don't have INT gear then it'll be slightly harder and way more expensive to reach your goal. But, if you're determined and I can't talk you out of it, keep adding INT into your main stats after level 10 until you reach around 200 base int.

    At around 100 base INT you can start MP washing which is the process of adding level up AP into MP and then using a reset to take out that new MP and put it into your stat of choice. The reason we do this is because there's a glitch in the game (Completely allowed btw) that makes it so that when you have a lot of base int and you put points into MP from your LEVEL UP, you end up adding more MP then you're taking out. At 100 base INT you may get around 22MP per level up AP. If you use 5, you get around 110MP. Now, you want to take that out so you would need to use 5 AP resets. When taking out your MP with a reset, you only lose a fixed amount (12 for thieves) which means that you get around 50 extra MP per level (at 100 base INT). 50 extra MP + 10MP for the 100 INT bonus per level is about 80 HP per level if you wash out all that new MP (Plus a little more from the leftover MP that you can wash out at the very end).

    We want 7k hp in 120 levels, this averages to around 59 HP per level. If we take into consideration the 120 level deadline you've given, then you will need to calculate the HP earned difference from your entire time adding INT.
    Because the room for error is so large in converting my methods into an exact mathematical expression, I'll simplify it so I'm not here for 2 hours.

    I'll say you reach your base INT goal by 50 (200 Base INT meaning an extra 20MP per MP wash[32levelUpAP - 12apReset = 20newMP]). 130 - 50 = 80; 80 levels of 200 INT.
    80 * 20 = 1600 extra MP from levels.
    80 * (20 * 5) = 8000 extra MP from MP washing.
    1600 + 8000 = 9600 extra MP total.
    9600 / 12 = 800
    800 * 16 = 12,800 extra HP

    If you try leveling up and HP washing this way, you should get to your goal of 10k HP way sooner than level 130. But, this is really expensive. Let me calculate the cost for you. [EACH AP RESET IS DEFAULTED TO 16M IN THIS]
    (5 * 16) * 80 = 6,400,000,000 mesos (6.4B) in order to gain 8000 extra MP from MP washing.
    (9600 / 12) * 16 = 12,800,000,000 mesos (12.8B) in order to reset all that extra MP into HP.
    Costing you a total of about 19,200,000,000 mesos (or 19.2B mesos) in order to get HP using this method without INT gear by level 130.

    Keep in mind that the price will actually be around 9B cheaper because you stated that you only wanted 10k HP, but still, this is what I came up with.
     
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    So -

    1) adding one AP into MP
    2) use AP reset
    3) take one MP out
    4) put into luck

    this would be better than

    1) adding one AP into HP
    2) use AP reset
    3) take one MP out
    4) put into luck

    is there a difference? sorry im still new to washing
     
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    It would be better because you get more total MP to wash your HP with!
     
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    It is cheaper to do regular hp wash by simply do add ap into hp and use ap reset to take out mp add into stat. However, you may not reach the desired hp @ a target level that way.
    The reason for the more expensive mp/double/tripple wash is to gain much much more mp that you can't achieve with just regular washing.

    It's a lot of reading, but I'd recommend you read through the following three hp washing guide:

    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/hp-washing-calculator.111127/

    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/hp-washing-for-new-players.41129/

    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/fully-revised-hp-washing-guide.8286/
     
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    Hi there!

    I can calculate exactly what you need to do to get to your HP goal!

    Here are the HPs you need to do various things:

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    Just tell me:
    Current HP
    Current MP
    Current Base Int
    HP Goal

    And I'll show you step by step how to get there in the cheapest way possible. :D
     
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    You do not need to remake. I have around 6k hp at 150 with my Shadower and that was just HP washing with the int from zhelm and rings etc. With meso guard that's 12k hp. More than enough to do HT, Zak etc. You'll be fine. You do not need to HP wash bandits.
     
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    HP: 3107
    MP: 1915
    Base INT: 100
    HP Goal: 10k

    you would be a life saver! I tried out the formulas and idk why it snot working with calculating minimum MP etc.
     

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