First off -You clearly don't understand how apples effect the server, because it has been unlimited before and held a stable price point for over a year before new source came - It has already been shown that people were not buying apples set at 30m when they were that high and if they did it was only for the super rich -The majority of the community would disagree with you
im sorry to tell u that apples are not compulsory for HT. what are u talking about? apq in 2016 was fine and prices of ws/cs were stable at 300-320m. Leech prices were more or less the same too. EDIT: apple prices even went from 10m to 12-15m
Can I ask please why you think selling leech all day being anti social zombifying your brain out is better? You've already stated that selling leech has more gains so what exactly is it that you've got against APQ? And are you aware that it was unlimited before? You do realize that the market for that was very very stable when unlimited was around yes?
If what you're saying is true, then this server should have died over 2 years ago, when APQ was unlimited and had a 2 minute bonus. I don't exactly see what's wrong with making things the way they were back then. The demand for apples will not decrease, and the supply will stabilize with time if it's made unlimited. I don't know if you remember, but old source APQ wasn't THAT popular. There was a community of "APQers", people that would do APQ all the time and not find it to be a chore. Currently, everyone is APQing because they NEED to. 4 pqs a day per character forces people to APQ, which makes it more compulsory than if it was unlimited. Do you really think people will farm apples 24/7? The only necessary change I see made was making trio APQ impossible by changing stage 5. Trio APQ allowed less people to farm more apples per pq, which is arguably not the point of the pq. The way you come off as "logical" isn't helping. APQ is not going to be fun for the majority of players in its current state. Just because you think magestory is the only way money should be made, doesn't mean the rest of us have to agree with you. Not everybody wants to jerk off and press genesis for 6 hours straight.
Now I don't know if I should let my 2 other mules married each other to be an APQ mules, if next update let APQ unlimited, this gotta be a wasted of my NX APQ unlimited is interesting tho!
I still stand by my statement towards having apq being limited to 4 times a day; but this is what i want to feedback to the admins. In my opinion, apples shouldn't be that easily available, yet not too hard to be obtained. Setting a distinction to have 4 apq tries a day works out pretty fine for it, if - the drop rate +50% is made permanent and perhaps timer increased to 90s would help. Old players may enjoy the unlimited tries in the past, but in my fair opinion, what works out in the past doesn't necessary meant that it is good to be applied and to be constant in the future. You may disagree because it provides the "playerbase" more advantages towards themselves for their own gains, but what I am seeing here is from a neutral perspective and trying to ignore my own whims to cater to myself in this situation. To those who disagree that apples are compulsory when in HT runs, this statement below is to you:
I would also like to point out that the drop speed of the items from boxes was greatly reduced from the old source. This means that the time difference between breaking the box and when all the drops are ready to be loot has increased. In the old source, all the items can be looted in 2 seconds or less after breaking the box. Now the way that the items are dropped, resembles how it is like in LPQ bonus. It actually increases the time wasted and needs to be compensated.
Hello everyone! thanks for your feedback on APQ so far. I'm happy most of you had some time to try it out and give some input on the current state of it. Regarding changes or 'buffs' we will discuss the following: Increasing the Bonus timer from 60 to 90 seconds to increase the opportunity of bashing boxes thus more loot for the players Checking drop rates of the more sought after items like Onyx Apples, potentially keeping the 50% drop increase this event brings with it Regarding the 4 PQ per 24 hour limit we believe that this is a fair amount compared to how things were in GMS. For players that do want to session out more PQs in a row we suggest PQing near the 'timer reset' which is 00:00 server time so you could potentially do 8 PQs in a row, every 2 days. Please continue to provide us with feedback of your current amount of apple loots and amounts of PQs you've done to get them so we can get an accurate representation of before and after we try certain changes. disclaimer: These ideas will be discussed, this is no guarantee that the changes I mentioned will be implemented at any time.
Can we make it so that we can finish the APQ with 5 people instead of 6? I've lost atleast 1-2 runs a day just because 1 person dcs. I get it if you want to keep the APQ limit at 4, but atleast let me finish with 5 people like before.
Literally changes nothing, it's unfortunate that the server admins are continually making these decisions despite the overwhelming feedback from the community in opposition to what we actually want. If we wanted gms gameplay we wouldn't play royals. Edit: As Jae has stated previously, just throwing the community another bone when in actuality "These ideas will be discussed, this is no guarantee that the changes I mentioned will be implemented at any time." So The overlord Matt needs to decide the final changes.
Fuck @Dre why you gotta d/c 3 runs in a row and fuck up me and @FarmerStory But DAMN can we please*** make it so that we can finish with 5 people? Edit: please??
Can we just make it so we can do APQ unlimited times? Or increase bonus stage time limit? Apple drop rate is so shit even with the 50% buff. Pretty much guaranteed I won’t be doing it once the event is over.
I'm not sure what you're on about as I took suggestions directly from this thread which is feedback from the community. To me it does seem that these changes is something that the community wants and not the opposite at all! Fortunately we don't have a dictatorship as you suggested however as I mentioned these suggested changes I selected based on the feedback mentioned here have to be discussed by the staff before we decide whether we would like to try them out or not as tweaks for APQ. I understand you have a very negative and aggressive approach on feedback posts but keep in mind we're just trying to make the game more enjoyable while keeping it balanced for the long run so many people can enjoy it
Regarding unlimited APQ, it doesn't really affect much to me as well as other players who have played over a year. Like what @Eli has mentioned: It only affects the new players. Hence, whether to make APQ unlimited or not, depends on the admins to shape how new players will play the game or improve. I personally have benefited much from unlimited APQ while playing an attacker as my first char. Admins have to understand how new players play the game or improve at the moment before deciding whether APQ should remain limited or not rather than just taking the overall standpoint of what the community has shared in this thread as it clearly do not represent how new players think about this feedback.
I have been the type of player who was mid-funded in old source meaning that while I was able to afford apples, I would trio APQ from time to time because the time input in APQ it was equivalent to the rewards I would get from selling leech or bossing. Majority of the times I would just buy the apples because apq and duo client at the same time was kinda annoying as I had to relog every time due to serious lag and thus I’d prefer buying that farming myself. In the old source the people who apq were people like me who farmed for self use. Some other people really dedicated themselves to apq farming all day long to fund their characters which I don’t see anything wrong with it. The community of apqers as in hardcore apqers were very little and close, just to mention a few I could say @YSOGREEN @Bryanz, among other I can’t recall. For instance my friend Edson was able to afford washing his NL because he apq on his alterna to pay for his leech which again I don’t see anything wrong with it because is time you have to put into the game and someone has to do it if it ain’t you. While he was getting leech, he was apqing in an alternative client to get mesos from Apples, he was pretty much leeching himself, just in a different method) The way the apq has been restructured just look so cancerous that if I was buying in old source even though I could farm them, there is NO WAY I’m going to be farming with the current changes. I WOULD LIKE APQ TO BE UNLIMITED, and the reason as to why is because in order to apq you gotta put in effort to do it and if you don’t want to do it, I don’t see anything wrong with someone else doing it for you. At the end they are working all day by apq and apqers deserves to be rewarded accordingly. Sitting all day selling leech is just cancerous so an alternative for low lvl players to get income without the game to be too overwhelming for them is good. At the end of the day we pay them to do our dirty work whether is selling us leech or farming the apples for us. Let’s give them the option to choose shall we?
Apple drop rate is not shit at all atm. In old source, with bonus stage at 2 min, it was quite often to get no apple at all in a normal run, and if i got 2 apples in a normal run i would jump up from my chair and thank god~ In new source, though i only played like 15 run in total, i got an average of 2 apples per run, the rate where i could manage to get if i played trio in old source. What i hope is, if my 2 apples per run was not because that i was lucky, to null the drop rate, and raise the times of apq to unlimited. If your point is leeching is something boring but gives the most mesos. We could have apq the most social but less mesos. I would continue to play apq even if we can only get 1~2 apples in average per trio run each player where npc is selling apples at 12m ea (so the market price must below 12m or ppl would just buy from npc). However, I don't know how long i could go to play 4 times of apq a day though maybe it takes me only 1 hr and rewards me 8 apples at 18m ea. I feel merching is fun. I walk around fm and check each store, buy scrolls at like 15m and resell at 17m. It may take me 3 min to find a single profitable scroll. The valentine events may come before i could have sold all my claw 30% which i had bought at 30m ea. I know it's not more mesos than leeching, but i like it. So i go to fm and check stores everyday. Some of my buddies feel hanging around maple and making friends is fun. They are sometimes in henesys, someone in a rare chair, someone in a fancy outfit. Sometimes they are outside the fm entrance in henesys, flash jump left and right, chatting with f2~7 on their face. They know hanging around and talking to ppl gives no mesos, but they like it. So they go to henesys and talk to ppl everyday. Leechers, when they feel like it, they can smega S>petris and tp to petris then sell leech everyday. Bossers, when they feel like it, they can spend 2 hrs in krex and zak then spend another 3 hrs in ht and if their day does not finish, they could spend some more time with the toad. Apqers, when they miss the square-shaped star box which would poop out a round blue thingy, when they miss the stage 4 where 1 runner running for them while the left 2 or 5 could gossip around, when they miss the numbers they report after every single run, either the 0's with an f4 on their face, or the 4's with an f5 on others face, after an hr with a pt where pt members join and leave 4 times before getting familiar with each other, where could they go?
I usually run on my Night Lord so I have a large advantage bonus stage wise but I usually average around 5 apples from 4 runs. I've had runs where I got 0 apples at the end and I think the most I've collected is 5 in one run. Usually it's around 1 or 2.
