An Idea to make HP/MP Washing Optional

TLDR:
You basically keep your IGN, HP, MP, and you have to stick with w/e class and job you used to reach 200. Everything else will be the same as if you make a new character.

The purpose of this idea is NOT making HP/MP washing easier, and it is NOT trying to change the current HP/MP washing leeching culture in MapleRoyals.

A crazy idea hit me this morning.

Topic regarding HP/MP wash I have heard and seen are:

• Hp/Mp washing takes the fun out of the game.
• Ap reset's demand is higher than the supply that's why the prices kept going up.
• Hp/mp washing cost too much. Not viable for casual players.
• Hard to find HB due to the Royals' current bossing meta/culture. Lack of quality if life/game play for non-washed characters in end game.

Putting if HP/MP washing is necessary talk aside, the idea that I have may help address some of these issues.

What if you have an option to keep your current HP and MP, but lose everything else on your character including level (roll back to lv 1 on maple island), AP stat, skills/skill points, and quest accomplished when you reach 200?

This proposal will not allow you to by pass level requirement to wield high lvl weapon, and will not allow you to change job or class. Youll have to play the same class/job and play the same way that you did when you hit Lv 200.

So for those of who just want to enjoy the game without bothering with HP washing, he or she can just enjoy the game, grind it out to 200, do the HP/MP roll back quest, and enjoy the game some more without ever worry about going through the leeching, buying ap reset, and washing process.

For those people who already washed, they may want to do this Lv 200 roll back quest as well so they can play the low level content of the game that they missed due to leeching/washing. Again it is completely optional, and will not make your character stronger than before by any means if you have the same gear.

This may do the following as secondary effect to the other parts of the game:

• Lower the demand for AP reset and lower the price. Therefore decrease the incentive for vote abuse to sell AP reset
• This may redirect more NX towards Gachapon instead of AP reset therefore increase the supply and decrease price of white scrolls and chaos scrolls.
• This may give people's non washed characters a second chance instead of quit or remake due to lack of washing.
• This may increase foot traffic of the low level area and PQs.

Just a thought.

Edit: if you voted no, disagree, think this is a bad idea, or think this might be game breaking please share your thoughts so I can think outside of my own box to see from your perspective.

 

Certainly a wacky idea haha.. Probably only feasible if the exp rates are higher though!

 

Nah it's time consuming to hit 200, but it's an alternative or longer way to "wash" and be able to enjoy the game to the fullest.

Kinda like the 20 hours long quest line you can do to use time and effort to by pass to skip zak JQ.

 

It's a decent alternative for late game washing too. Those with rare untradeables like the new beginnings ring but totally unwashed could do with this.

 

I personally like this.

-It also allows people who want to keep playing the same character to re-level.
-It takes a long time to get to 200 in the first place, so as an alternative to HP washing for classes like BM and NL, it would mean one heck of a grind... although more likely people will wash to minimum bossing HP requirements, and just boss, then do it over and over.

IMO, the HP/MP save-over when you start over is a nice bonus, I think it'd be cool to see maybe in the ranks how many times a character has restarted. Of course keeping the time to 200, so those who got to 200 first would maintain that position, but, just next to the name or something. We all know that one person who would have hit 200 3-4 times over.... *cough* @Swanky

As long as all skills are removed (preventing you from leveling with gimp'd 4th job skills that are still hotkeyed), and you can't re-class (a MM will have to level as a bowman --> xbowman --> sniper --> MM), I see little issue with this besides it being a lot to code.

As mentioned, this wouldn't be an easy way to HP wash, just an alternative... I don't think it'd lower prices as much as one might hope, but would (as stated) allow some life into high level characters who didn't wash.

 

This maybe the main reason strike me with this idea. Personally I enjoy the low level content a lot more than the end game content (I'm weird I know). Many of my characters I didn't start leeching until lv 40 or 50 because I really like playing with people at lower level.

Buffing the spawn rate of the low level grinding map won't help with increase of the foot traffic because washing and leeching are the road block. This is the only way I can think of (other than paying for HP like the other thread suggested) to by pass the leeching and washing process without breaking the game.

 

You're not alone. Low level content is the most nostalgic for me, and others who didn't get that far in pre bb maple. The atmosphere is also more relaxed and that's nice to have in a game you play to relieve stress.

It's great that you started the thread so more people can pool their ideas in.

For the leechstory issue, it could be possible to alter the party exp rates for attackers and leechers to encourage activity. Another server uses 8:2 rates and the HS buff is tiered so that more people = more exp. This really encourages more active play.

 

Great idea, but my concern is the nerf won't stop the leech because thief or arrow class can't train regardless of how bad the leech exp is since they need the high base INT to wash HP. Also nerfing leech exp will piss off a lot of people and they will say people/old player who leeched before the nerf has huge advantage over them or the new comers.

Edit: I guess people will be pissed at this idea that I have too, but I'd like to know why lol.

 

Strict no from me.
The idea of washing is for certain few bosses and like many have stated earlier, not necessary but very useful.
While I originally dislike the whole concept of hp washing I do not have a need for it to completely go away or invent work-arounds to neglect it. I like that it takes time and dedication if you want to perfect a character and I like how you are able to push the limits with stuff such as hp and mp. Having rebirths and other farfetched stuff like it just seems way out of bounds to me for a server that's trying to keep it "nostalgic."

To end with. What we really need are MUCH MORE APPARENT INFORMATION about the existence of washing to prevent players having to remake characters simply cause they did not know of it's existence.

 

There is no way this will replace hp washing tho. It will never completely go away. Similar to the super long zak jump quest by-pass quest line. It's a longer and more painful way as work around. Not to replace.

Edit: majority of the people here doesn't care about low level content just want to get to end game. This shouldn't affect them at all because they will still wash like they did before. This feature is suitable for new comers who cant afford HP wash and doesn't want to be "forced" to play a mage, or weirdos like me who actually like the early level content better than the end game content. I'm also a perfectionist too. I can't stand playing a character knowing there is a ceiling if I don't do washing. Contradicting...I know...

To me the "nostalgic" is actually play the game not by pass low level and leech to 135 or 155...you really can't play the game properly like the good old school GMS/nostalgic without severly handicapped yourself with high base INT or risk sacrificing your end game HP potential IMO...

 

I am not someone who complain about HP washing without doing it. I washed all 4 of my attacking class to 30k hp or 30k hp potential including thief class. I have never bought a single hour of leech in my life, and I even self leeched two of my characters to 16x and 17x before I played it due to HP washing. Needless to say I have walked the road and paid the price.

 

If the rebirth option only let's you wash your hp and mp while working identically like making a new character, as in your character gets reverted to lv 1 and all stats go away except hp and mp. You cannot equip gear higher than your lv or stat requirements. Then, and only then will I say yes. I would not mind that at all.
Changing jobs, gaining more skills not locked for your certain job or gaining more damage through your main stats that's where I will disagree.

 

Great idea! ...For a different server. i worked too hard

 

Maybe I worded poorly, but that's exactly what I'm proposing

 

Its not an easier way to wash...for NL to reach 30k you need to hit 200 at least 3 times if not more without washing.
The goal is not to by pass the current hp washing meta/system, but providing an longer way that requires more time and dedication to do it because right now there is no other way except leeching.

 

I have now changed my vote to a yes!

 

Edited a little for clarification. I suck at expressing my thoughts correctly.

 

Added TLDR lol

 

Sorry but i have to disagree with this idea. As pre-BB didn't have a thing call rebirth. Rebirth is only for high version.

 

Pre BB didn't have things like vote for free nx, free x 3.2 exp, billion coins, item godly system, htp re-egg quest, game lounge teleport botton, and yet we have those here. We are a million miles away from being close to nexon's pre-BB, so I don't see why "Nexon didn't do" it is a justification not to have it here at Royals.

IMO we should improve MapleRoyals, not trying to be Nexon because we are not.