How do you feel about Gen 20/30 books as compared to bliz/meteor 20/30

Poll will be open for 2 weeks

Mastery book prices owled 05/23 and averaged

gen 20 802,592,591 gen 30 1,349,999,888
meteor 20 17,238,095 meteor 30 287,166,666
blizz 20 23,527,777 blizz 30 246,249,999

gen 20 is about 46x more expensive than meteor 20, and 34x more expensive than blizzard 20
gen 30 is about 4.7x more expensive than meteor 30, and 5.5x more expensive than blizzard 30


I myself, find that genesis book prices are way too expensive when compared to other mage ultimate books. With the skill table changes that we got a while back, genesis was made to have the lowest magic attack from the 3 mage ultimates, yet the book prices remained the same, why is this?

I got a response in shoutbox saying that since bishops can provide their own HS their book prices reflect that convenience factor, i don't agree at all with this, the majority of AM's who sell leech today, have an HS mule, and it is far easier for them to 1 shot maps at a much lower level. Also, yes bishops do have the option of bossing whereas AM's are hindered in that area, but I don't see this as a valid argument as to why the books are sold for the prices they are.

If you voted that Gen Prices are way too high, then i think we should do something about that, I wouldn't try to force anyone to not buy a skill book, but if you also deem the price unfair, why not stop buying gen20/30 books until people realize that the price is too high and lower them?

Also list what you feel genesis 20/30 should be priced at (give a reasonable response to this, no one is going to sell you genesis 30 for 100m....)

If you disagree with the my stance on this, please feel free to explain why below, however, try to stay on topic.

 

I guess bishop skills still got high demand and that's why people buy
I mean if there wasn't much demand people could just refuse to buy the books and the price will go down by a lot.
If all bishops stopped buying gene 20 for a month until it goes down there will be too many books in the market and the prices will go down to below 300m

 

Genesis should be 10x more expensive.

Also, it would be better if it also had 1/3 of the current damage. Bishop should only support...

 

Lol. These numbers are too crazy mang but I will say one thing. For some reason Bishops don't get damage penalty on ele wands. So, bishops are more op than they should be.

Books are more expensive because more demand. More demand because bishops are op.

 

Refusing to buy books for a certain time does nothing in the long run. You're just tricking the market that there is no demand while in reality the demand is the same. Then when people start buying books the price will go up fairly quick as the books leave the market.

 

It's not surprising seeing how most of the people here play bishops.
https://royals.ms/forum/threads/mapleroyals-2017-census-results.101014/

Crazy high demand, almost doubling or tripling the amount for the Archmage counterparts. Also, Genesis 20 drop far less than Meteor 20 or Blizzard 20 from my own experience.

 

It calls free market.
Everyone in this server opens a bishop, although it is the most overrated class. Many bishops = many players who wants to buy the low drop-rate item = prices are high.
Changing that will unbalance the game, and as you see every player still open a bishop without any reason (crazy boring bossing job and worst mage leecher by far).

 

I wouldn't view it as tricking the market, but more along the lines of a type of bishop strike (lel), but i can see your point of view. One can only hope that as a result of the 'strike' the market would lower the price to be on a more fair playing field with other mages (where book prices are concerned), and that it would stick.

I never did take into consideration the drop rates, they could be skewed to favour AMs books, but that's not information i would know, seeing as i don't boss much.

Overall i am happy with the information coming in, but still the price difference should not be this drastic, especially for gen 20.

 

When people won't buy there will be more books in the market so the price will always decline. If people buy books very quickly you could easily put one for like 700-800m and still sell (since it's the only one in FM)
But if there will be like 20 Gene books in FM and the lowest is like 600m you'd have to sell one for less than 600m to convince people to buy from you, since you can easily owl and find a cheap one.
Also there's the factor that many people will want to sell it right now either because they need the money or because they need to give splits quickly and they'd rather lose 100-200m right now than wait for more than a month for the book to sell.

It's also not the same demand because if Gene became too expensive people will simply not buy it at all and just use the money to make an archmage instead (since the only purpose of high level gene is to 1 hit higher lvl maps like ulu which can be easily killed by archmages).

Right now the price isn't that high (for gene 20 at least) but say if it went up to over 1.5b I think the majority of the people would quit selling leech on bishops and just switch to archmage instead so the demand will plummet. In fact this is exactly the reason that Gene 20 prices went down in new source despite inflation of almost everything else and the decrease in drop rate as people simply made archmages instead.

 

Even if the price was down to 200m, people should know arch mages will always be better in leeching because it's their only job (petris).

 

Striking would only work if the community could communicate and unite with everyone but this is free market with socialism. We don't plan ahead so far but seek for something that would satisfy our current need. There will be those bishops who'd pay extra to get the beautiful gen20 book they dreamt of since reaching 4th job. After all, main consumers of gen20 aren't older/richer players but new bishops who saved their income for dream goal of 1hitting some higher lvl leech maps.

 

It's all about supply and demand. One will never be able to control or change the price unless the variables are changed. Such as: change the amount of (new) Bishops, change droprate of the books, ...

 

Last time when people tried to "strike" and artificially manipulate the market price:

https://royals.ms/forum/threads/price-fixing-for-heartstoppers-3.90805/

What happened? Well .... nothing happened. Heartstopper remained 250K despite all efforts of that union. Then heartstopper drop rate was nerfed in Feburary 2018. EZ 400K stoppers now.

If you think gen20/30 price is too high right now, you have to convince the administration that it is the case. Organizing a community strike won't do anything.

Personally speaking, I think gen20/30 prices are just fine right now.