Increase the drop rate of genesis skill book.

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    As you all know, bishop will get an indirect buff next update and now people are storing them result in the price of these books sky rocketing, while the drop rate of these book are confirmed lower than meteor or blizzard.

    For the reason: When the server just open and in their 1st and 2nd years, players simply enjoy the fun of nostalgic and party with friends for pq, bossing, training...., people are having fun even having harder time with lesser equips, no one require you anything to join their party. Now the server have grown old and became harsher, people require you reach a certain level and having a certain equips to join them, otherwise you better training and farming alone until then ad end up just chatting, no playing together. Bishop with max genesis is one of those requirements and now its even harder to attain one because of higher demand after the update notice and greedy people are storing these books to resell them after update. Also an increase price of one popular item may come with an increase price in other items such as white scroll, chaos scrolls, APreset, ... this make the server less attractive to newbies and recently joined players as they need more time to find it "fun" here. Resulting leaving of these players.

    Please notice that we may in top of gtop100 but it is because many players that quit the server still voting and sometimes go back and have fun with gacha. Its not really they are actively playing here.

    I gave off my points not to persuade admins to apply it right away, I lack proof to prove its 100% true but please remember this suggestion if it really happen that the price of items bump up and many people leaving just because of the price of these books, please apply a buff to the drop rate of them as it can hopefully stop that madness.
     
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    lol wtf
     
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    i'll gladly bring any good gen10 bishops to any bossing party. Dont be shy, u just want cheaper gen books for that sweet 1hit skele leech dont you ;)
     
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    Yoooooo are you gonna ask for an increase in drop rate for MW20 in the future????
     
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    Like you said, since Bishop will receive an indirect buff, it potentially places it ahead of AM already. So what's with buffing genesis 20 drops? Totally not making sense. Strong no for me.
     
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    If Bishops are gaining an advantage with these changes, why would a bigger advantage be given by increasing the drop rate of their skill book?
     
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    okay ill admit that a buff to genesis drop rate are unreasonable. But please dont with just that, you guys gather your friends and tell me and my other posts are bullshit. As this forum gather mostly veterans, its not mean that you guys are the voice of MapleRoyals community. Please respect and state your reasons instead of insult others.
     
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    I have some questions :
    1. What is your definition of "veterans"?
    2. Were you insulted by anyone? Enlighten me if you can.
    3. Did all who againsted to your suggestion are veterans? No any new player?

    A kind note : how people reply you depends on what your attitude is.
     
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    1. players who play long enough to have advantage over newbies to the point that what ever change that affect newbies dont really bother them.

    2. If I remember correctly after i posted this thread, a guy who wrote new corsair guy call it bullshit (he at least state his reason). then you came and said "stop posting bad and bullshit in feed back" without stating the reason, a friend of you told me to go die. It made me feel bad to the point that i said "i quit" and then another of your friend - sparky95 told me "go royals dont need you." as i only dont agree with his ideals in other threads.

    3. at least 4 of you are not new , there are newbies and veterans who agree and disagree with me but they simply dont post here in forum. but those who posted to insult me are veterans and their friend which i believe are veterans.

    A kind note to you that I did told you: A decent education taught us to respect a duggestion and state what is wrong if it against your ideal. It is to remind you to tell your reasons rather than insult words that hurt people. that is how i reply to your attitude.
     
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    Bro. If u wan cheap book, u can play fp arch mage + hs mule. Isnt hard to fund it (skillbook and wand)

    Personally i just started out as a bishop two months. Got some decent eq and pass gene 30. (Gt gene 20 at second try and 30 and third try)
    I was lucky as my friend persuaded me to pass gene 30 just one week before the update (nerf am) becomes super popular.
    The skillbooks are definitely expensive. There many reason why gene is steadily increasing. High demand is definitely one of them
    You will see ppl mega trying to buy gene book every single day. While it is true that fm sells at exorbitant price, some ppl will still buy it because demand meet supply equilibrium price. Obviously some ppl will deem that price expensive. Well too bad for you. Because some other ppl will buy it. And this brings me to second point which is panic buying. Because of the up coming update, people are panicking to buy gene now because they anticipate the price of sb to increase. This further increase the price of book. If u are a merchant, of cuz u will wait for the price to peak out and sell. Nothing is wrong lol.

    It is well known that bishop is a super popular class. Almost every one will start out as a bishop. But you dont need gene 20/30 to sell low level leech. You just need gene 1 to get the job done. So it comes down to the goal of ur bishop. 1 hit skele or just to sell low level leech.

    Also just a book is going to rise, doesnt mean you have to increase the drop rate. These skillbook are price trophies from bosss. Which is the reason some ppl went to boss beside getting exp. if a boss drop shit stuff, who would want to boss? In fact one may argue that because gene sb is going to be more expensive, more ppl will be attracted to bosss. Maybe there will be slightly more supply to ease the demand?( who knows, is theoretical)

    Although maple is just a game. It is a mmorpg game. Everyone is trying to be the best. And this resembles real life. Strong one will survive but weak will die off.
     
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    I read through all replies and none of it were insulting, although I would agree that responses by a few, particularly Don's and nay's were not useful - but it wasn't insulting.

    All of us who responded are rather veteran players, that means we know what kind of changes can improve the game, and what can't. By telling us a premise "bishop will get an indirect buff next update" and later suggesting for its core skill book's drop rate to be increased is just pure ridiculous, not to mention if it were done, it will definitely attract criticisms since Genesis 20 is one of the ways people (especially non mage players) earn their incomes. Unless, of course, your suggestion is justified by bad the drop rate is, which from what I remember, isn't that bad.

    Please don't make the issue about you by bringing in irrelevant subjects such as the corsair guide, etc. If you want the discussion to be constructive and meaning, let's start off from the thread starter because that's how you get discussions going, not by saying other's attitude sucks, and outright insulting them (and yes, I feel like you you indirectly insulted me by saying that I insulted you when I have no such intentions. I made the assumption since you didn't state who, so I assumed you're referring to everyone who gave their thoughts).

    Still, my original post stands - I vote no for this suggestion simply because it will unnecessarily break the economy and depriving many of potentially decent income.
     
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    To give you a relative comparison...

    When I started out a year ago, gene20 was 800m. 1hr low lv leech was around 50m/hr. Assuming gains only come from leech sales, that is 800/50=16hours of leech.

    Right now, gene20 is 1b. 1hr low lv leech is around 80m/h. Likewise, 1000/80=12.5hours of leech. It is really really safe to say gene20 is cheaper now.

    Also, there was a point between these 2 point in time where gene20 reached a crazy price of 1.5b. Back then low lv leech was around 70m/h. That's more than 20 hours of low lv leech.

    Purely from my 1-year long observation of gene20 prices and I am sure many can agree on this, farming up to buy a gene20 the past month or so is relatively easier than before.
     
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    I really doubt you need gene 30 to join parties lol.
    I joined HT on my bishop at like lvl 130-140 when I had gen 10 and like 900 magic lol.
    All you need is res and not to die
     
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    Next idea will be give bishops more single target damage than NL?
     
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    Can you guys stop talking about the price of books? I already admit its unreasonable.
    I never mentioned about you insulted me, at least you are reasonable when stating that this idea is harmful for the economic and denied it, that is a way of respecting your member. But if you consider calling others bullshit, assume all of their posts are bad, tell them to get off without a good reason are not insulting then i really have nothing to say as our mindset with the matter are completely different. And i will just stop posting anymore if you just think my suggestions including my issue are all not constructive and meaningless. After all, your decision are all that matter.

    By the way, "The guy who wrote the corsair guide" was mean xmetallica21, hes who start to call my post bullshit (still i didnt consider this as insult because he stated why he think its bullshit) and triggered his friends to stomp me, told me all other of my posts are bad and stop posting anymore.
     
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    They'll adjust to their demand (which will be higher, making them pricier) but hoarding creates a larger supply too so they'd - kinda- balance each other out.

    If you find a ton of gene20/30 books in FM, just wait for someone to panic sell. Plus chances are their prices right now are already inflated.
     
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    Gen 20 was ~1.5b before new source ht was released and leech prices have increased too so what is the fuss on the price?
     

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