Heyoo! As someone who runs HT daily, this bothers me.. Even after the changes to the dragon elixir quest so you only have to kill manon instead of hoping for a cry to drop, there's still problems finding manon sometimes. Many people kill 1 manon for themselves without asking their friends/guild/alliance and some people kill all manons for the tiny amount of NX they drop. What kind of people? Bad people.. I suggest remaking the requirements for killing Manon to also include Griffey (either or, not both), essentially doubling the likelyhood of getting the quest completed. Just a suggestion, peace
I don't see how this will improve the situation as those two bosses are commonly killed either for Dragon Elixir quest, or for NX. Your suggestion won't improve anything to be honest.
Honestly as someone who runs HT daily and even sometimes on multiple characters, I can’t even remember the last time I couldn’t find Manon and I’m up and playing at all different hours depending on the day. If Griffey was included as an alternative way to complete the quest, sure there would be more opportunities to complete the quest but is this necessary? I just went to check for Manon right now to see if what I said still proves to be true for me and I found this: Spoiler I feel that this statement alone solidifies the fact that there isn't a problem right now. You stated that sometimes (Meaning occasionally, rather than all of the time) there can be some trouble finding Manon but isn't that part of the reason why the quest exists? If it were possible to find Manon and complete the quest all the time wouldn't it be a little bit redundant? We're not required, but limited to challenging HT twice per day, unlike something like Krexel. This quest gives us a soft cap beneath the already existent hard cap of being able to fight HT twice per day, which in turn somewhat helps to regulate the number of HT exclusive drops being pumped into the game on a daily basis. We're already allowed to farm something like 12 Dragon Elixirs daily (The quest CD is 4 hours, right?) and although it's 100% unrealistic to do so, it's not so unrealistic to do the quest even just twice per day for many players. Finding Manon in old source was absolute hell and the changes that have been made to the quest have made it so incredibly easy compared to how it was. I really think that making it any easier is completely unnecessary. For anyone curious who wasn't around before the quest got changed, you used to have to loot Manon's cry which didn't even have a 100% drop rate in order to complete the quest and the competition was so fierce that you were often regularly forced to camp for hours there in order for the chance to get the cry, and that's even ignoring the fact that people could just run in and loot it before you had the chance to. I found an old gif of myself struggling to find Manon in old source in hopes that it would actually even drop the item needed for the quest. Spoiler: Old source Manon hell I really just feel that the Manon situation is very ideal, if not even too easy nowadays .
It seems i might have made it look like a bigger problem than it actually is. But it was just a suggestion after all
I personally think the game was more challenging and rewarding when manon's cry was needed instead of manon kill . It was bloody difficult to get genesis skill but that was a compensatory handicap for the advantage bishops had compared to AMs. Current system is definitely better and beneficial for everyone but at the same time, less challenging and it makes things bit too easy, now that people can run HT anytime they want compared to the past where difficulty of completing elixir quest contributed to down regulation of HT entries.
