Closed Ban appeal

Character Name: mintmeister
Last thing you did: browse fm
Why do you think you got banned?: most likely for being in a guy's Lyka channel
Ban message when attempting to log in: banned for third party program/hacking for 3 days
What GM banned you (optional): n/a

If the reason I was banned was because of the Lyka thing, all I wanted to do was record the time he killed it so I could come back 3 hours later. He is a bishop just using genesis so that is why I stayed so long. This Lyka channel was the last channel that I was going to check as I had just checked the previous 19 channels. I was on the ladder so I could see his damage. I do understand that he asked me to 'CC'. Maybe I should have let him know I was just watching but he was extremely rude as soon as I appeared so I chose to hold my nerve for a few minutes. I did not attack any monsters in the map nor did I loot anything. I understand he took video of the whole thing so you can see for yourself that I was not KSing or harassing. Just watching him kill.

I only got the chance to take 2 screenshots. The first one is him looting the Lyka kill. The 2nd is just a chat log of what happened (I'm assuming you have this evidence as well).


If this isn't the reason I got banned, then.. please don't ban me again for that lol. If it is the reason I got banned, then really???

 

Okay, can you please just tell me which rule I broke? Was it harassment? Or KSing? Disruption? I really don't understand how me hanging on a ladder watching him kill a boss warrants a ban. I've read the rules over and over but can't pinpoint a specific infraction. I will accept the ban since it's only 3 days, but it's just very disconcerting that what I was doing, or didn't do, got me banned.

Minor Infractions:

1. Objectionable Behavior (Harassment) - The act of engaging in any sort of rude, harassing, vulgar, obscene, hateful, threatening or abusive discourse with another player, or alternatively in a setting in which unintended audiences may be present such as all publically transmitted chat or serverwide messages. This includes persistent badgering, flaming, mass defamation or disruption of another player. Punishment: First offense - 3 day ban, Second offense, 7 day ban, Third offense - Permanent ban.
2. Objectionable Behavior (Disruption) - The act of engaging in any sort of action that is deemed to be excessively disruptive to the individuals around you, including spamming or flooding chat or skills. Punishment: First offense - 3 day ban, Second offense, 7 day ban, Third offense - Permanent ban.
   
3. Hate Speech - The act of transmitting any sort of content or acting out any scenario which could be perceived as derogatory or otherwise prejudiced towards any group of people based on their race, sex, gender, life choices, or any other division. Punishment: First offense - 3 day ban, Second offense - 7 day ban, Third offense - Permanent ban.
4. Inappropriate Content - The act of transmitting any sort of inappropriate content, including vulgar, obscene, fraudulent, threatening, libelous or sexually explicit materials, or alternatively transmitting any content that is privately owned. Punishment: First offense - 3 day ban, Second offense - 7 day ban, Third offense - Permanent ban.
5. Kill-stealing - The act of attacking bosses or monsters on a map persistently without the system designation of ownership via the /mapowner in-game command, or alternatively last-hitting any bosses or monsters on a map without that same designation, without the expressed permission of the player who does have that designation. Punishment: First offense - 3 day ban, Second offense - 7 day ban, Third offense - Permanent ban.
6. Map Looting - The act of looting one or more items dropped from a boss monster, regular monster or other map element without the system designation of ownership via the /mapowner in-game command, or alternatively without the expressed permission of the player who does have that designation. Punishment: First offense - 3 day ban, Second offense - 7 day ban, Third offense - Permanent ban.

 

Hmm, would I have still gotten banned if I had not replied at all? I feel like all that I said to him was just in defense. Of course I'm going to say something if he's threatening a 'cc or get banned'.

 

If you were afking, then you wouldn't have been banned. From the evidence I could clearly see you being present, and refusing to cc. This act equates to disrupting the mapowner. He has the rights to ask you to cc since he's the mapowner, and you failed to comply which is why he said it's bannable. People just convey the same message in different way.

 

I know I would not be banned if I were already AFK. I came into the channel and hung on the ladder waiting for the kill to finish. Tim says I was actively disrupting by conversing and you are saying that I can not be in the map at all? I really just want to know: do I have to leave the map if someone asks me to CC? I can't watch them in any way (especially a map boss with spawn timers)? Can you please just PM the video evidence and tell me at what timestamps are unacceptable behavior. Thank you.

 

The report is anonymous so I can't show it to you.
And don't take what I said out of context - I said you can't be in the map because you were present in controlling your character and refusing to cc despite mapowner telling you to. Your actions during those few minutes are deemed as disruption to the mapowner.

 

Okay, got it. I must leave the map if I am controlling my character and I am asked to CC by the mapowner (and not really allowed to watch).

Since you can't show me the evidence, can you at least describe to me what actions were disruptive? Is it my replies to the man? Or was it me getting seduced over and over again as a result of hanging on the ladder? This would be so much easier if I could just see what I did wrong.. It's not like I don't know who reported me.

edit: Again, I accept being banned for the 3 days and I won't get myself into this situation again. I just am so curious as to what exactly constituted the disruptive behavior. I still don't know if it was my replies, or me getting back onto the ladder, or maybe even something else??