Skele leech should have it price increased!!!

Today I asked 2 allies who bought leech from a good skele leech seller, they said that they got around 31m exp in 1 hour of split. I did a small test by sell petri split to them. one got around 32.5m exp and one 33.1m exp in 1 hour of leech.

My point is:

A good skele seller can provide 30-32m exp per split

An average petri seller like me can provide 32-34m exp per split and probajly 35m if its tc nerd (s/o to Venin)

So I must admit that skele seller should increase their price considered the result and how hard for them to 1 hit.

Let say, if petri average price is 150 then skele average price should be 140m. if any cheaper, Seller should just stick to ulu2 leech because you can earn 135_150m per hour in ulu2 with a chance for godly RC and thief/bowman eqps.

What do you think?

 

It really depends on the seller. While it is true petri is slightly better than skele, it doesn’t necessarily means that petri is 100% better than skele.
There are many factors that are involved in exp rates. For example, seller doesnt pause when needed. (Toilet break, npc etc)

1. Skele requires higher tma than petri
What this means is that skele seller has to be of higher level than petri seller. So this will also result in slight exp decrease for skele.

2. Rotations involved. Just because the seller is selling petri, it doesnt mean that he or she knows the technique and skills to move around the map the efficient way.

I have asked some of my friends to test between petri and skeles exp rate. What they claims is that it depends on seller. Some petri sellers actually do less than 30m exp rate for split and that is really crap.

Back when i was a noob, buying petri leech. Some sellers actually stop before 1hour which include npc time!!!!!! Fcking crap

Lastly, there is brandings and group think involved. People think just because it is expensive, it must be good. But u are actually paying more for something that is worth less. People just pass around the message saying petri is better than skeles when they in fact dont have the knowledge of exp rate. They dont know what they are talking about.

To conclude. I really hope that skele can be 75/150 in fact since is almost the same exp rate

 

Isn't the current split price for skele 70~75 mil?
The cheaper skele price are because of the seller being higher level than average (lvl 17x~200) or that they recognise that they cannot perform as well as other (weaker tc + rotation).

 

Good to know Petrie is better than skele now lol
3 years ago there was very few ppl leeching at petris. Some ppl don’t even know one can leech at petris and get the same if not better exp.
I petris

 

No it's not 70-75m

Not sure if you've read the exp comparisons offered in this thread.

 

What would be the point of making a mage then? If skele prices were increased to the same as that of petris which it nearly is as of now because of the skele map buff, bishops would be on par with mages in terms of leech selling, and superior in bossing/end game content. I think a 5-10m difference in skele prices makes up for the fact that you have the option of generating income by Hting on your bishop. Also adding to the fact that skeles used to be like 50-55m post update 54. It's funny that people are still complaining about increasing the price..

 

This is purely from a leeching perspective where mesoes: exp ratio is all that matters. Bringing all other factors only complicates things and there's more than just the bossing capability that is involved if you're talking about earnings:time. That aside there's also the component of HT book prices and weapons across the different classes and honestly for this thread I think it's appropriate to ignore all those factors and just focus on mesoes:exp which is what the first 2 posts are arguing for.

I think the gist of the issue is that every leech seller performs differently and that the difference between the 2 maps might not be as skewed as what the general population feels it to be. Imo it's on the leechers to establish a name for themselves by documenting the exp gain on the forums or something.

 

Not sure what you are trying to say...
Petri are on average 75~80m (85 being overpriced) .

And based on what OP said 70~75m split should be the price for skele given the lesser exp compared to petri due to rotations and seller level.

If the current skele price is not 70~75m split then what is it because that's the price I'm being seeing

 

My bad. Last I heard averages for petris was 75 while skele was 60 for split?
Oh wrt the exp part I was trying to say that the level and TC/rotation ability didn't matter since that's subjective and what leechers really care about is the exp.

 

You see, when I buy from you, I don't mind paying 75/150, but I've literally gotten leech from people like Dem0nBS who have actually given me 20-22m exp/hr (yeah, I'm not even kidding, this is borderline scamming).
Leech price really needs a system where you can pay based on how much EXP you gained rather than just time for this reason. Sometimes, I don't mind if I get slow leech as long as I get decent exp.

 

you should considered the fact that there are bad skele sellers too. In this you compare a good skele to a bad petri, so when it come to the same ability to leech 140/70 is reasonable because petri still slightly better.

Also skele drop are quite good compare to petri (need confirm on this) and if you re a bishop, you need to open one client only for saving battery life or duo client with other being farming stoppers.

 

petri is easier to 1hit as mage then 1 hit skele at bishop. and if skele price too slow, ppl just prefer it over petri due to being a little different in result. and if the income is too low(like 120/60) as selling leech at skele or petri, its better to sell leech at ulu2 because im sure you make around 150m with just sell leech and npc (50-70m npc for ulu2 per hour with good fm items while its only 15-30m at skele/petri with just decent fm items, considered the seller is good at tc and dont focus on loot, LOL even dont focus on loot, items drop in ulu2 just pure better. )

 

Petri exp was better than skele in old source too. Skele drops are way better than petri though.

 

S>o2 leech 180/90m exp 10% more exp than petris and 20% more than skeles... who is going to bite :thinking:

 

I feel like petri and skele are ridiculously inflated as is considering you still make alot NPCing/ selling drops. And ulu goes for less that half the cost.

 

Honestly, the drops aren't that great and a good leecher will forego much of the equips that drop unless it has high potential (i.e. Nisrocks). If the constantly go to the top and bottom rows of either map, they really shouldn't be charging premium prices. Dropping the price by 5/10 is way more worth it if they do, and also helps the buyer feel less cheated as well.

 

From what I checked I only get around 5% more exp or so in petri than I get in skele (like my bs get around 66m exp in skele split while fp can sometimes get like 70m in petri or like 66m without having full HS)
Though there are the factors that my fp is lvl 161 while my bs is lvl 178 so the buyers will get a bit less and also I have no HS mule so I have to always get to the platform near the portal to HS from longue which might slow the leech a little bit.

 

So i test this personally with some friends the last week. Looks like for split, petri's bether for arorund 5% to 8% if you split (taking 100% telecasting - 1 hit reference).
But if you going for skele solo, there's 2% difference if you do 1 hour split petri, and almost the same exp rate (32m/h) at solo petris.
I test as well do skele with 6 character in the same map (but not isame party lol) and apparently my buyers have 8% to 10% more exp split.
As final result, you need to complete the map (6 characters in the same map) if you wan't to get the same exp like petri at skele. Of course you can get a bether result at petri if you do the same for split leech, but since the spam rate and the telecasting method, petri's bether them skele if you don't complete the map.

After this, i believed skele's should be arround to 60 to 70m split & 130 to 140m solo, but how alot of people tell ya before, skele's drop is also bether them petri, since you can complete all you equipment in 30 min if you telecasting as well, wish its 25m to 40m extra mesos + some godly equips like : King cent / Neos top & bottom/ Bowman overall / Dagger / Dragon etc.

If you think about it, you will get almost the same amount of mesos if you do split in skele, but will take some time as well since the buyers.

 

In my own opinion, if you really do want to compare petri vs skele, both mages AM and bishop has to be of the same level. 10 to 20 level gaps actually bring about 5-10% difference in terms of exp rate. TMA 1260ish to 1 hit petri and TMA 1.3k for skele. 40 tm difference is 8 levels (or 7) and this is also affects exp rate. (Accounts for 1-2mil exp rate difference)

If the seller is higher than level 170, i can say for sure the exp rate is lower than 30mil exp split no matter how good ur tc and map knowledge is

 

I've mentioned in my buddy chat a few weeks ago that I have no clue as to why skele leech is so underrated.

Can't find a logical explanation as to why this is happening. Kinda defeats the purpose of buffing skele spawn too. But I can enjoy skele rates for now until players realise that the 30 40m meso difference (solo) is ridiculous.

I think skele should be appreciated a little more. The skele buff helped a lot. Was once 28mil exp per hour up to 32mil exp per hour now, which is really close to petri rates. For now, skele leech is easily more worth paying for.

But market is market. It settled at the equilibrium we see now. There must be some reason why.