I think this "vast majority" of players are those who don't need to worry about the rule, Myself being part of that majority I can still see and understand the unfairness of the rule. Considering the majority of the votes of this are opposed there should be another vote. Why should players with significant others who play be disadvantaged simply because they live in the same home. They should be receiving the same thing as everyone else, It's only fair. Or are the Gms saying they don't care what the community thinks and will do what they want regardless of the people who make this server active. Which wouldn't surprise me considering some of the distasteful acts i've seen on the forum. If it's that much trouble for the Gms why not ask for some volunteers, get a few you can trust to look into it have them make notes and have the team push the list to the upper administration for the final choice of who needs to be banned. From the post it doesn't even feel like the GMs made any attempt at all to rectify the situation other than waiting three months and sweeping it under a rug with a "everyone adjusted who cares"
Well, one of the reasons we haven't been able to do anything is that Matt's solution to the issue depended upon us having a working Cash Shop Inventory. The person who had been working on that code hasn't sent it to us. Basically, we've just been waiting, and waiting, and waiting...
Well surely there are other solutions that can be looked into in the meantime that doesn't alienate a portion of your community. That does not require them to be at a disadvantage, or force them to look for a way to circumvent the system.
Can you suggest a workable one, which avoids the following pitfalls? - Coding nightmare to implement - Requires a lot of personal information from users to verify that they are indeed a couple or siblings living together and that they are both active Royallers - Makes checking for vote abuse near impossible - Has too many potential loopholes that are open to exploitation - Is unfair to a group (or groups) of legitimate players - Manages to really rub the community up the wrong way
Here's a rough idea Account linking, an option to link 2(?) accounts together so when any 1 of the accounts vote, the other will also gain nx, both accounts share the same 24hour cooldown. Requirements for account linking: 1. Accounts must be older than x weeks 2. Accounts must have voted at least x times 3. Must have a character above x level Requirements to keep your link up; 1. x amount of hours logged in 2. x amount of levels gained depending on current level( I don't know about this) 3. woof (I can't think of anymore) Links status refreshes every x days/week, if you don't meet the requirements, your link will break and you will need to wait x days/week before you can relink. You will lose the ability to vote for x days if your link breaks. All accounts have x amount of "link tokens", you lose 1 token every time you link or your partner links you, if you run out of tokens, nx gain will be disabled when voting(???) Add an option to opt out of account linking with a cooldown of x days/week for those who know they aren't able to keep up the linking requirements for one reason or another New accounts only; When you create an account, add an option to ask if any other people in your household plays or may play in the future, only accounts that've checked that box may account link Current accounts; Grace period of x days/weeks to check that box so they may have the option to link without creating a new account As I've said, rough idea, could definitely be polished up more but I am a dummy. I'm not sure if this is a buttfuck to code since I know nothing of coding, but I feel it reduces the chance of exploitation since you actually need to do something to keep the link up which I feel wouldn't be a problem if the legitimate players, and also reduces the workload cause of the automated link status check. \ o /
Re: above This solves nothing. I used to play two accounts like the majority of players with bishops, so I'd get double nx. Checking MACs is no different because I commonly used separate computers for each client.
I should probably ask this obvious question, then we know what options are/aren't available to us: If you are one half of a couple who live together or are siblings living in the same house, would you be willing (if necessary) to provide the following information to the admins? - Real name - Proof of address - The usernames of your accounts - A photograph showing yourself and your other half or sibling together, with each of you holding a piece of paper with the name of your main character on it
^ My partner and I would be willing. But what would constitute a proof of address? (i've had this issue with other things- being unemployed, I don't get mail often nor do I have a bank account, for example). Edit: I suppose a photo ID could work for that, come to think of it. Knocks out 2 birds one stone so to speak- Full name & Address, as well as photo. I don't know about other countries, but it's highly recommended to have a photo ID here in the US even if you don't have a license.
Real name and proof of address are irrelevant to this discussion, and there is already enough posting of real life information on this board done by admins. All that should be required is #3&4
It is not irrelevant actually, it establishes proof that you are two different people and that you live under the same roof.
Yes but if it was me in that position i wouldent want to give out my address. After seeing what matt does with peoples adresse's that try to screw him on paypal, it was a big reminder to me to be carefull about sharing my information on the internet. I mean holding up a card that said my name and my username in a picture side by side with the person or people should be enough. For example 3 brothers play together, each hold a peice of paper with their name and username/character name and stand together and take a picture.
Scamming using RL money is much much different than just showing a proof of address to prove that you do actually live with another person. For the record: Talked with my boyfriend, and he too says he'd be perfectly fine with the above requests. (Honestly once you get out there in the world, nothing of yours is ever 'personal' anymore. Applying for jobs requires your SSID and a buttload of other information. Banks require that kind of information, Paypal requires bank information... That information is always out there once you get out in the world. Just an observation)
As Sila said, scamming someone out of money is a big deal. The people who do this file a dispute with PayPal claiming Matt took their money under false pretenses, something that could cause Matt to lose his PayPal account and any money on it. It's no joking matter. Therefore, Matt has decided to publicly out anyone who tries to scam him to dissuade others from doing so. Additionally, your information is out there. It sounds scary to say, but it's true. I'm sure if I did enough digging, I could find out a lot of information about almost any player on here. We live in the age of information, and unfortunately, this is one of those consequences.
No i understand you sila but when a bank has my information its diffrent then when its people on the internet that can take it whenever they want and post it for all to see. What if i had a stalker or someone obsessed with me and he was able to find out where i lived by my information being posted online by someone else and it resulted in him comming to where i live and possibly hurting me. I do not condone people screwing people out of real life money, the punishment that they get is none of my concern, it was just shocking to see all of their personal information posted for all to see and it just makes you realize that you need to think about the consequences of giving your information out on the internet, it makes you realize that something like that can happen to you even if you hadent screwed someone and someone had your information and you pissed them off and they wanted to fuck with you because of it.
I completley understand why he does it, trust me seeing that really shocked me and if i was a little asshole who was thinking about scamming him i wouldent after seeing that It is pretty scary how much of our information is actually out there and that people can dig up on you, but this is the way it is and its only going to get worse which is why i try to keep as much as my personal information off the internet as possible, and if somehow still finds my information i have 3 guards cats waiting for them!
The difference being that if any of those institutions posted your information online for everyone to see it would lead to a lawsuit and hefty fines from the goverment as in most countrys that is against the law. See my reponse to the above quote
@Chaossound - here, if people are up in court for committing a crime, their personal information is disclosed on the internet (with certain exceptions). @TotalGlamour - if we were at some point to implement the checks I suggested for allowing couples/siblings to both vote normally, we would of course add a clear-cut privacy policy, which I have been meaning to add for ages anyway. The only people whose private information we disclose and will continue to disclose are those who scam us via Paypal.
So if I want free nx I play on two computers and ask my brother for a picture. I don't see any possibility of abuse here! On a different note, pingback voting would stop a lot of malicious vote abusing, as the voting sites block a lot of the common proxies around. It would also probably increase voting substantially, because a lot of people are lazy =).
