Anti-Bot Rune

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  1. fanta
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    This is just an inconvenience to everyone. Get drop logs and staff to actually track logs. Also fix hp washing instead of having alternatives that cost a new player essentially the same.
     
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    Could you list some solutions or alternatives to 'fix' HP washing?
     
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    There are examples readily available scrolling through other gtop100 servers. That can be your reference list
     
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    So you want the top server to apply methods by lower ranked servers?
     
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    Do lower ranked servers necessarily have worse methods?
     
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    The servers are either 'HP washing optional' (that includes Royal), or it's after BigBang
    So you want to upgrade the game version to a stage where HP washing is not needed?
     
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    Wrong thread for this and we definitely won't reach a consensus
     
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    Then don't talk about HP washing in Anti-Bot thread
     
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    It was a side point and I'm sure you're aware that hp washing is a driver behind rwt and that in turn incentivises botting/hacking/whatever
     
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    Such a ridiculous argument

    Let's assume we managed to remove HP washing
    Are you gonna remove damage as well cause botters and hackers are motivated to scroll godly items?
     
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    I have done the new HP quest on 2 characters, CB and DK, mostly by themselves. The main ordeal is the Nep Honeys and it only took me ~2hours at around 2.5k-3k kills for 15 honeys. I know this cause I kept the seeds for orbis exchange.

    The rest of the items are manageable, and you actually make money whilst farming them. The hardest one in my opinion is the slimes as they have the lowest volume maps.

    Maladys - good equips, 2 full maps, maps include Faust boss.
    Saps- good map, also includes Stump boss
    Wraiths - good equips, leeched map so you could just ask a leecher to give you (found one guy with over 5k of them, gave me for free)

    TLDR; HP quest was a great update for the additional HP, it is not hard whatsoever. Lazy people will need to spend absurd amounts of money since sellers take advantage of this. I've seen only a couple of people selling maladys for 200k-500k a piece.
     
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    You're losing your cool for some reason

    Fixing hp washing doesn't mean removing it completely. Let's be real - hp washing involves a much larger population. Getting a better hp washing system or something to better balance apr prices won't be the panacea but for sure it'll help.
     
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    I would say I'm annoyed by your ridiculous proposals

    Let me change the questioning then
    If we 'fix' the HP washing, does it mean RWT will stop?

    Currently all the items I saw at RWT are meant to boost damage, not linked to HP washing

    I don't understand why are you trying to link botting / RWT to HP washing, it doesn't make sense
     
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    I was going off the time it takes to farm those items and the opportunity cost in terms of selling leech, something most can do and in which case might be the better option. But for people who main an attacker without a mage I do see it being cost effective as you've mentioned
     
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    It's not possible to stop all rwt and botting. But do check more rwt sites and you'll see aprs being sold.
     
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    I did the hp quest without a mage, only on the respective characters I needed to do quest. CB and DK have their own multi attacks.

    I have seen multiple people ragging on the new HP quest without full knowledge of how simple it is. If it were like the drop rate of black bulls deed and arwins shoe, then we would have a problem ;)
     
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    If it's not possible to stop all RWT and botting, why should the HP washing be 'fixed'?

    It only reduce the demand of AP resets, but the main factor - godly items with high WA - are still in demand
    So botters / hackers will still continue to scroll godly items
     
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    It's currently in GMS and I don't think it's a bad thing. If you don't activate the rune, you get exp/item/meso decrease which goes down even more over time. HOWEVER, when it is activated it does give the player a temporary 100% exp boost and usually some other thing for 2-3 mins. For those of you who haven't recently played GMS it includes things like, dramatically increased recovery, dramatically decreased skill cooldown, increased damage, a thunder strike skill that randomly strikes the map inst-killing mobs, and more. It's not a bad system and it does reward the player that activates it.
     
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    Matt already explained earlier in this thread that there are client restrictions regarding runes. We'll hope and wait for the lie detector to be implemented with possible combination of certain rune effects.

    Improving the HP washing system may benefit the server but that's not gonna solve the essential problem which lie with botting. Even if we reach a stage where nobody has to worry about HP in bossing, greedy and lazy people will still bot/hack/RWT to gain unfair advantage over others. This thread, paired with auto-lie detector suggestion thread, was created to propose a possible solution that can dramatically reduce such maneuver at the cost of little convenience. Even if expert hackers find ways to bypass the defence mechanism, it'll become a hassle for majority of existing botters and even future ones to come.

    I hope the message got delivered to everyone. I appreciate every counter argument for the sake of discussion and troubleshooting but please refrain from venting one's complaint here on an irrelevant topic. I believe such complaint can be appealed just as well on a separate thread.
     
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    I gotcha. I was just explaining for some what the system you were talking about actually was. I know it can't be implemented. Would be cool though if it was possible! It helped with grinding in GMS a lot.
     
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