Fully revised HP washing guide

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    Why is it better to put your ap into hp, then do an ap reset to take mp away and put it into strength?

    Isnt it the same to put your ap into str, then do an ap reset to take mp away and put it into hp?
     
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    This is absolutely wrong. 1st method gives 50-54 hp.

    To start the HP washing process, u have to hv 1 AP in HP or MP so that u can minus MP to add to your HP. You add 1 AP into HP so that you dont waste AP resets.

    If u add 1 AP into MP to start, and u -MP, +HP once, then thats MP washing, which warriors dont need to do.

    To maximise the amount of HP u get as a warrior through HP washing, you add your AP into HP and then ap reset -MP, +HP till u hit ur hp goal. This method gives you 50-55 hp per wash. The 1 hp difference isnt much but if you are washing a lot, getting additional 1 HP can help a lot :)
     
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    I do love it when people pretend to be smart, but don't realize they said something so wrong that everyone else immediately notices it, except themselves of course.

    FYI:

    Using LevelUpAP vs. APResetAP HP Gains

    Beginner: / 8~12 /// 8~12 HP //// -8 MP
    Warrior: // 50~54 // 50~55 HP /// -4 MP
    Thief: //// 20~24 // 16~20 HP /// -12 MP
    Bowman: /// 16~20 // 16~20 HP /// -12 MP
    Magician: / 6~10 /// 10~20 HP /// -90 MP
    Gunslinger: 16~20 // 20 HP ////// -16 MP
    Brawler: // 36~40 // 40 HP ////// -16 MP

    Edit: If you STILL don't understand what the table means, please, feel free to ask. we are very kind and gentle people who don't mind enlightening our juniors. *glances at date joined*

    Also, clarification on the visual glitch bug that seems to have everyone confused:
    When you use an APR, typically the table pops up for you to first indicate what stat you want to minus, and subsequently, which stat you will add that deducted point to. The last table will show the amount added, and the amount deducted in blue and red font respectively.

    The issue here is that when you ADD to hp, the blue font will only show you the base amount you WOULD have gained, WITHOUT taking into account the range possible. However, if you accepted the APR change, and took a PROPER LOOK at your hp total (rather than immediately and brainlessly going off on a rant on forum about being cheated by Maple), you will note that the actual HP added might be more than what the blue number indicated. Hence why all the formulas for hp washing have a RANGE, and not a single absolute number.

    To continue, unlike when you add to HP, when you deduct MP or any other stat, the number deducted is FIXED. So there is no range necessary and the absolute number is given instead.

    For example, i have a warrior, 2nd, 3rd, 4th job is irrelevant. The same formula applies. I have enough extraMP to perform Hp washing. If deduct MP, it will always deduct 4, no more, no less. Then i add to HP. The BLUE font number will show 20, however the actual added would be 50 - 54, or 50 - 55 depending on which type of AP is used.
     
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    I removed 1 DEX and put it in HP and it gave me +53 HP.
    I removed 1 MP and put it in HP and it gave me +50 HP.
    I'm not sure how you managed to only get +20 HP unless I'm doing it wrong? :o
     
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    First off, I'd like to thank you for the compliment :) too bad i dont go to parties so we'll never know if this is true.

    As for the 20 HP thing, it is something that has been proven to be incorrect time and time again. Lemme just link u a couple of threads regarding it. 20 HP gained is JUST A VISUAL BUG. People have been questioning it for the past 3 years.

    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/hp-washing-bug-for-warr.36288/
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/warrior-hp-wash-problem.128769/

    Mysteriously, i could only find 2 threads. THANKS GOOGLE :)

    If you actually use the ap reset, u will find that u gain 50-55hp and not the 20hp that the game lies to you about :(

    The only reason you would actually get 20hp is if you were either nuts or you dont understand how to put ur sp when in 1st job and didnt add Improve HP increase. ~f3
     
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    the 3 posts after spotted's can be summarized as :

    Get your facts straight bud.
     
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    The mage part seems very wrong, you only lose 30 MP when you reset an MP point into HP/INT and the -90 MP is just a visual bug
     
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    I really can't comment on that part. Never saw a point in wasting Apr to HP wash a mage so I have no idea what's the range like or if the numbers are accurate.
     
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    So i just came back to royals.ms and forgot how I hp washed my hero.
    Do I just put ap into my str every level and then take mp out with an ap reset to put into hp?
     
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    Isnt the last part wrong?
    You don't add anything into str this way ?
     
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    Just curious... will it affect my HP & MP if i late job adv for 2nd job?
    I just created a NL, lets say if i do my 2nd job in Lv 80. in the end will my HP and MP get lesser than job adv on time Lv30? o_O
     
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    If im reading this correctly. If u put the stat from mp to luk for example u can have over 1000luk or total stats
     
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    I am confused by this part, then what are you supposed to do when going to wash? When you have your 5 ap from level up, you add them to HP and take out of MP to add to what you normally put in to? Do you only put 1 AP into HP (the important note mention) and it lets you take out of MP until you can't? Doesn't that mean you can just add extra STR/DEX/LUK/INT by taking from your MP, and only get 1 AP worth of HP increase?
     
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    Hi guys!

    I can't find anywhere a table listing the amounts of fixed HP/MP gained at 2nd, 3rd and 4th job advancements for each class. (This is really important because it significantly changes how many washes any class needs to do, regardless of goals.) I know there is an HP Washing Calculator linked on one of the other threads which likely integrates these numbers into its formulas somewhere, but I would just like to find out what those fixed numbers are. This will help my own calculations out greatly, as it is all I am missing. Anyone know? :D
     
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    Hi All, im currently washing my first bossing class, NIGHTLORD.
    I'm level 34 with a base INT of 157 and 66 INT EQ.
    My goal is to reach 15k HP by 135.
    Can anyone advise when i should stop pumping my INT and MP wash into LUK instead?
     
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    mage lose 90mp every time 1 ap is reset from no? Another guide says it is 30.
     
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    Yes, it is -30. That piece of information in this guide is incorrect.
     
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    This guide deserves a bump. The newer guides just dont have these formulas if you want to calculate yourself and dont want to rely on a calculator :)
     
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