HTP Price!

Well i think the market price for HTP VIP should be 800m.. but this depend of the runner to be honest. You can't implement this as a unviersal price when someone try to get buyers for 100 to 200m less. I think that should be respect for others since this is pure market.
I don't know why the price going down since i didn't log in on a while lol but i think again is all depend of the runners.

 

Why is it compared to Zakum? Zakum takes less effort to host, less hp/time to run.

 

Law of demand

 

because idea it's kinda same
zak it's not that eazy as many think now but because many strong/pro zak looks eazy
HTP's and Zhelm are both untrade and 100% drop
so when more pro people kill zak daily for EXP/SB they generate to much zhelm that either has to be used/sold or let people take free
same with HTP's you can't hold and sell for when it's better price
and when you are not alone and got many HT's squad that do daily and more to come price it's normal to drop or even be free just like zak

 

Simple solution, kill all the manons like @sids .


in other words, blame @sids

 

So then help the community grow instead of being greedy. People are more inclined to play longer when they can afford end game gear such as HTP. Also you're using the buyers for a safegoat on your gamble for books/NX/EXP. Just because you cant afford to gamble some mesos the buyer has to suffer? Greedy af

 

Do you even horntail?

 

Any attempt to control the market through collusion in a virtual economy where there is no existent barriers to entry is only laughable.

 

Please provide something constructive to the discussion instead of replying as such.

 

I thought I could spare you the details but...
What you are attempting to do: Create a collusion among HTP sellers and fix the price of HTP, AKA controlling the market.
What you are doing wrong: You are creating a collusion in the open which inherently implies the impossibility of the feat. A successful collusion is done in secrecy among suppliers who are confident no competitors could enter the market easily. They would then deny any attempt at collusion to avoid backlash from buyers because colluding is never great news for buyers.

 

Yes I do, but "Please provide something constructive to the discussioninstead of replying as such."

Aka a monopoly

 

An oligopoly would be more appropriate, but the nature of the situation is the same. There are the elite few who run HT often enough and are trying to fix prices amlng themselves to force buyers to pay more for the service. Thankfully it seems like many HT runners are calling BS on this while the few who want it are holding strong on their desire for 25 extra mil per run.

The nice thing about the free market is that buyers will not pay extra for those runs and instead go for the cheaper 600m runs. This in turn will cause the would-be price fixers to either run without a buyer or be forced to lower their prices as it would be obvious that their ill-concieved efforts were indeed ill-concieved.

Sure only making 600m for a run is worse than 800m but it is a lot better than making 0m. It's not like the VIP buyer is their only source of income from the run, they also have book drops on top of the experience. They just want to be sure they're making as much money as possible, AKA being greedy.

 

https://royals.ms/forum/threads/s-vip-htp-200m-daily-guild-runs.130906/

Price has been fixed.
200m vip htp

@sids

 

Idk what you guys are talking about? I just got my very first HTP thanks to @Cyraptor only 200m!!

 

Idk if you guys have taken an economics class but this situation can be compared to oligopolies, a few large sellers who dominate the market. In this case, the few dominant sellers would be the elite bossing guilds. Encouraging other sellers to increase their prices in a dominant market is known as price fixing which is illegal even in the real world. The server runs on a free market economy. Buyers and sellers can choose to buy and sell at their desired prices.

 

There's nothing elite about doing Horntail nowadays. Too many people run Horntail now. 'Elite few' is nothing but a synonym for 'veteran players'. Therefore HTP equip is itself already a market item rather than a few who control its supply/demand. Sorry but to tell you guys the truth, this thread is going nowhere. Each reply post here is just repeating itself over and over again, different phrasing, different words, different structure, same meaning.

 

Well there's no set number/ratio that constitutes what the few elites are. To my knowledge, many people can't participate in HT cause of their level,job,damage range etc... Again I could be wrong, I don't know how many pro players are on this server. We're talking about Horntail sellers though. I only see the same smegas from few sellers

 

yes every post is saying the drop is natural and this thread is a fking joke.

 

You guys are going over and over again talking about that it's a "Free Market", well no shyt it's a free market, and yet y'all keep on talking about "controlling" the price, no one is trying to control the price here but you guys whoever using the word.
This thread is a god for sake DISCUSSION, not about how we can control the market about the HTP service. It's a thread/discussion to conclude a price where we, as the HT runners to sell at a fair price for the buyers, fair for them, benefit for us. It's not like for most of the runners not going to do the HT run IF you don't find a buyer, right? You will still continue to do the run. I get how most of you think that it might attract some people to buy your HTP service by lowering the price, but is that the right way to do so?

Like what i mentioned before, when one person start to sell with a low price, other people will follow, that's just how the community or people are. You might lead a good direction, but you might also trigger some other people by doing so. The price is no what we're trying to "control", we're suppose to be fair and fun at what we're doing and selling.

As some of you mentioned that the cs/ws prices dropped recently, but that's because of the double NX, but please don't forget that with the double NX event, players can still have higher chance with shorter time to get more cs/ws in the mean time. That doesn't apply how the market is dead when people can get more from the Gachapon.

How is "greed" apply on HT runners selling HTPs services? It's like saying people selling Zakum helms services are greedy to use the buyer to gamble for the Gen20. Every single boss runs are a gamble to all of the HT runners. Also how is it the HT runners to be the one gambling on the buyer when the buyer actually pays after the run is over, and loot what they're buying. It's also a gamble for the buyers to be inside the run to wait for the run to finish, as we know the buyer might die by not focusing during the run and die to 1/1 or dispel from the Horntail.

Anyway, once again, this is a thread of discussion for all of us as the HT runners to conclude a price which is fair and nice to sell to the fellow buyers.

 

A discussion is nice and all but I doubt people take this thread seriously when the OP themselves sell VIP service for 200m , that got me confused anyways