I currently have a 136 bishop with 30 free, unused AP, and 50 AP invested into mp (for mp washing). My skills are genesis 10, mw10, ressurection 1, and bahamut 30 I have a 19 int bathrobe, 10 int witch hat, deputy star, 6 int shoes, 8 int cape, 12 tma earrings, and a 162 tma ele wand 6. I am going to start farming for mesos soon and want to know what I should do with the mesos in order to increase the damage on my bishop. So far, I think my options involve: 1. Buying AP resets to gain more INT and perhaps start washing with the 30 free unused AP as well 2. Attempt to purchase a genesis 20 skillbook 3. Buy more magic att and int gear What should i do?
You dont need to mp wash as a bish. Get a zhelm, better earrings, purple gaia cape, shield, htp and a better wand. Then I would focus on gen books.
Wand>earrings>overall>shield>cape>gloves. Then get MW20 if possible, or Gen20/30 if you plan to sell leech at low level (which is boring). What's your hp goal btw, you're washing quite early.
What are you trying to achieve with your bishop? Do you want to increase the damage to sell leech at low level? Or farming? Bossing? 30k hp mp? You’ll need to invest in getting back your int from all the AP you’ve spent in MP if you want to make your bishop stronger. Not only does more int mean better damage, but mw only affects base int, and the bonus mages get from mw is quite significant.
I want to reach 6k hp and 30k mp, (for that maximum magic guard efficiency). Magic guard makes u take 20% damage from attacks and redirects 80% to mana, so basically its as if it multiplies your HP times 5. 6k hp means that if ihae magic guard on and only take damage, my hp and mp would reach 0 at the same time. I got summon farm mules done so funding isn't an issue for me right now, just moreso deciding what to buy. I want to make my bishop a battle bishop that can deal some good damage in boss fights, so basically I am interested in increasing damage as much as possible as quickly as possible. Oh as an update i got a zhelm today! 15 int only though. But given that I already have ap into MP should i still focus on things in this order? Overall i am a bit confused as cerealinoats is telling to to do resets first and others are telling me to invest in magic att / int gear first.
"battle bishop that can deal some good damage in boss fights" I laughed so hard i cracked a rib. I'm not saying its impossible, it just takes insane amounts of funding to get to that point, and if you go to any boss runs, chances are people will be yelling at you to spam dispel and hs rather than do damage.
Having more INT stat whether from base or from eq also means getting more mana per level up. By keep the AP unused or stored in MP without it getting reset as INT means you’re getting less mana every time you level up, which is counter intuitive to your goal to increase MP by MP washing. To MP wash, you add natural AP into MP when you level up, but you also want to reset it back to INT immediately so as to gain the MP bonus from having more INT by your next level up. By having 30 unused AP and 50 put into MP that’s not reset to INT, that by itself means you’ve lost 80 magic, or 84 with mw10, and less 8 mp gain every level. Yes getting gears can get you higher magic, but any gear you get is just offsetting the magic you’ve lost first from base INT without making you stronger than you would’ve been if you have them all in INT in the first place. I hope this makes sense.
Yes this makes sense, In that case I guess I should definitely first fund resets, because it seems that I shouldn't level anymore until i do.
I wanna bump this thread as I made some progress with funding my bishop and am not too sure on what to go for next. Since the last post I've bought and passed both genesis 20 and 30 (first try, super lucky on both). I've reset all my points from mana into INT and am currently level 144. Gear wise, I have the following. Hat: 14 int 15 luk zhelm Medal: +2 all stat Forehead: Empty Rings: All empty Earrings: 32 tma single earrings (not mine, borrowing it from a friend) Eye: Empty Cape: 8 int 6 magic att Puac Overall: 19 int male sauna robe Pendant: Deputy star (+5 all stats) Wand: 162 TMA ele wand 6 Shield: 7 int clean ester shield **Cannot equip, plan to scroll with 100% shield magic att to make it a 14 tma shield** Glove: 8 int clean dark noel **Cannot equip** Belt: None Shoes: 6 int 8 speed shoes So far, my options for further progress on bishop seem to be either purchase more Int/magic att gear or attempt to pass a maple warrior 20 skillbook. Given that I have nearly 740 base int, passing a mw20 book would be a 37 magic upgrade (with the specific amount growing as I level up). If I get a horntail pendant, I can also wear the shield and the glove, making a HTP effectively a 32 magic upgrade. But it feels somewhat like a waste to buy a horntail pendant when I could just join a horntail run as a bishop later on and just get one for free. Other than that, I could also upgrade some of my gear, but I am wondering if any gear upgrades would be as strong as maple warrior 20? Could I upgrade my gear and get more than 37 magic for ~2.8b? @CerealnOats @MoriForest
That is entirely Possible and very exciting to use as once sustainable not just its a busy class overall, u get to do so much making the HT really really fun! And since bishops are available to self leech easily, make mules such as 1x Crash mule 1x Se Mule 1x Shad Sed mule! It will not only do so much damage and the utilities u bring to the team is so much! Takes you less then minutes to host a run entirely as well, R> 4~5 NL and your good to go! I personally improvise telecasting in Horntail to position myself to Dispel The defensive buff from respective heads or position myself properly to give holy shield whenever possible! Bombing preheads with shadowe mule and In mainbody where dps is spreaded out very evenly, and possible to white arms at even a consistent rate makes it entirely another level of play!
Hello @akash Really really congratulations on the books going smoothly for you! Before gearing! You will want to ask yourself, How much Magic are you targetting! To 1Hit Skeles? To 1Hit Ulu 2? Most mages target themselves to have 1291 magic to 1hit Skeles as early as possible! I would highly suggest you investing in 1x Krex Ring Participate in all upcoming events to get rings Invest into your zak Helm by doing Daily zakum! A Small trick into getting a good zakum helmet ~35int is to arm yourself with 10~15 helm for Int30% Organise Zakum Parties with buddies with already helm-ed to have all helms for free! Throw in helm for int 30% x3 and if all 3 passes successfully, u might end up with a very decent end game helm for a long time to come! Spend some NX into gacha in Showa for that juicy Maple Leaf with 5-7int! Help some newer players in LPQ meanwhile enjoying alittle nostalgia by farming Ludi Cracked Glasses with +1 to all stats! Get A MoN! Complete the Prequest and equip yourself with a MoN, join a Guild and participate in CWKPQ actively to earn you some fun and mesos at the meantime! After you’re more funded go for HTP, having that base HP from MoN is a good addition to have before joining HT! If need advise for being an buyer in HT As a bishop! Feel free to ask i’m sure everyone is more then happy to assist in any enquiry you might need in these fields! Once those gears are up, You can start spending some leech mesos for gear progression from here! you might want to target 8int shoes with high base luk! A good starlight/doros with +25int~+30int Target to own yourself a 180+ wand! @iLLES my buddy here has all sorts of wand available on sale! You should check his sales post out! Scroll yourself a decent ~20tma Glove and Shield by using 70% or look for cheap deals around the forum selling thread! (this takes time and attention as mage gears are more rare to be on sale incomparison to other gears!) If you have come across and participate in the new Upcoming Mulung Dojo content and achieve a good belt with luk! Wearing a lapiz @ low level is also very possible Which lapiz is available ~14Tma to 15tma clean at a very affordable price! These shoes requires 73luk so it might be alittle rough to achieve though! I personally used a decent base luk overall together with alchemist ring to achieve that amount. Theres also a gearing guide in the bishop guide 2018 Which i hope might be useful to you! Its alittle outdated since its written Pre CWKPQ Oh! And For Attack Potions should also be maximised if u plan to hit 1291 magic to sell leech such as “Spellbound Lollipop + 45magic” “Energizers + 35magic” So meaning to say u need ~ 125x to 1hit Those skeles too! MW20 is an gamble, its cheap now being accessable ~2bil, But i always suggest a non-gamble route. It is of course up to you to decide! On regards to washing, there is no need to start too early perhaps lvl150 160 is not too late to achieve your 6k HP 30K MP goal! Starting early hinders your progression greatly which i highly would not recommend.
I'd say I want to reach 1300 magic clean (and use the 45 magic att pot) so I can 2hit oblivion 2. Not sure if 2hitting that map is better exp than 1hit skele or not. I went there recently and the spawn is just so much better than skele spawn. Also the map is large so you can do party play whereas for skele, if you 1hit you kinda need to solo the map because there just is not enough spawn. My main interest would not be selling leech, but rather self leeching my SE mule (and later on maybe a potential sed mule) to a high level. I'm going to start hosting my own zak runs as soon as i max sharpeyes on my mule. Bringing the 30% helmet ints is a good tip. Do you reccommend i scroll any zhelm 15+ or only scroll zhelms that are 17+ int (clean of course). As far as krex and MoN go, I am a bit hesitant since I would have to do both of those prequests twice (one my bishop and one on my SE mule) but I will certainly work on those at some point. MoN does look like a decent stepping stone before getting a HTP. I can certainly start to gacha in showa. Also for the Lapiz, do you think it would be worthwhile to add any base luk? If I get mw20 and put in 6 base luk, I basically get 1 luk free from the maple warrior bonus. As far as the washing goes I do think I started too early, but the extra mana feels very nice gameplay wise. A full inventory of potions lasts me so long! But, as far as hp/mp washing goes, I feel like gear is something you can always improve, but the opportunity to improve your mana is gone the moment you put your ap into int (over mp). I'll also check out that person's selling page. I do think upgrading my wand could be a good idea to start before mw and after i get some untradables done.
Haha! Skele leech is definately the way to go! Together with telecasting and proper manuvere u can achieve so much more exp incomparison with a 2hit OB2 Selling leech is probably the second fastest income in the game you will have access to! Once SE Mule reachest 129 with max SE and good 12k HP bloodwash, why not sell leech in the meantime! I just noticed i was the one who sold u the Genesis book yesterday too hahaha!! The Krex And CWKPQ prequest is definately good to do! Especially u have genesis you will be suprised it is not as difficult to complete! As every income and exp dailies will make the game Exciting! In the long run! U can also join friends and guildies to participate which make this game so much more fun to play with. You will want to plan your finances carefully if u intend to wash! Will definately be very useful after you designed a roadmap for your gameplay! On regards to gearing , Lapiz is a very endgame equipment which there is no rush to equip it, not worth keep luck as low as possible! Elemental wand is definately the first item u want to upgrade and since u have a 32tma earring then its good to go! Zakum helmet just throw it on every 16~19int ones , if u see a 22int one DO NOT 30% it LOLOL KEEP THAT UNTIL U ARE FUNDED TO ws+60% as u probably not gonna get another chance to get it ! the untradable are super important to upgrade so i suggest u tackle them asap before anything!
Yes, I do agree that solo wise I think skele exp would be higher. Basically I would certainly get more kills per hour myself at 1hit skeles vs 2hit obl2. However, the map at obl2 is so large, its viable to get another party member as an attacker. For a party of 2, the attacker gets 1.2x rate and the leecher gets 0.6x rate. For a party of 3, the attacker gets ~0.93x rate and the leechers get ~0.46x rate. If my SE is leeching, it basically gets the 0.46x rate twice since two attackers. So we are comparing 0.6x rate from solo leech to 0.9x rate from 2 attackers 1 leecher, so it is possible, perhaps that 2hit oblivion with a duo partner could be faster exp than 1hit solo skeles. Of course this depends on who the partner is and whether or not they kill as fast or faster than you, but I think it has the potential to beat 1hit skeles. I recently saw a smega for a 185 tma ele wand for 1.2b, which seems like a good upgrade, 1.2b for 23 magic. How much do you suggest I invest into an ele wand?
Well! I’m unsure about OB2 with double Bishops and Gameplay on regards but seems like its time for you to find out! Haha Please share with me what u might experience and might it truly be more efficient! I’d invest 2bil into a good end game weapon and not make adjustment to it for a long time to come! Its definately worth it
