Optimal HP Washing Calculator (Taken offline, under maintenance, up SoonTM)

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  1. Zerato
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    Nice work!

    I am having trouble understanding how it works though. I am experimenting with values and it's suggesting me to MP Wash on a DK...? :o
    All I want to do is check how much "INT-levels" I need to reach a certain HP goal. For example, how powerful INT gear I need to use if I use them for 10, 20 or 50 levels...
    Also, the instructions that pops up are sometimes irrelevant. I can input a high level, and it will give me instructions from Lv.1. I want instructions only from my current level and onwards.
     

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    That's definitely a bug in that it should not display any mp washes for someone who already the necessary excess MP, I'll get to fixing that. I'll have to fix some of the error handling cause I have code to handle these sort of situations already, but for some reason it slips by for some range of levels.

    As for high level instruction stuff, I'm still working on that. I didn't quite "finish" the whole thing when I released it, but it was done to the point where I think it would satisfy the needs of a lot of people when the other calculator people like to use is down. I'll take your suggestions into account as I add more features and honestly polish up the somewhat rough work I've done.

    The int gear level up thing is something a lot of people have asked me about, and I'll get around to it.
     
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    Hi can some1 help me put the numbers in?? I cannot download the program.
    Please, it would be very helpfull.

    Hey, can some1 help me calculate?

    Job: Night Lord
    Level: 134
    Current HP: 5450
    Current MP: 7014
    Current Base Int: 250
    Int Gear : 123
    HP Goal: 18.500
    Level for HP Goal: 175
    Lvl to reset base int: 135
    MW10

    Thank you!


    Also this one, just in case I change my mind. Thank you!

    Job: Night Lord
    Level: 134
    Current HP: 5450
    Current MP: 7014
    Current Base Int: 250
    Int Gear : 123
    HP Goal: 12.000
    Level for HP Goal: 140
    Lvl to reset base int: 135
    MW10
     
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    Edit: Base int seems fine, gonna cut it close for the mp though. I think you might be a little short on the mp washes,
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    For the second one, you can basically hit 13k right now
    [​IMG]

    (back to fixing some stuff)
     
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    Hello and thank you for talking your time doing this!!
    I have 1 question. In the first picture/calculation, I noticed you went 4 base int. Is that a mistake, and will it effect?
     
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    Oh woops, ill change it, but I don't think the results will be any different since you're washing out the next level. I'll edit the picture right away. On the picture I posted first, it gave the wrong numbers for the current progress so that's the only thing that has changed with the updated picture. I've since fixed that bug so the current picture reflects how the app works now

    edit: edited previous post to correct numbers, same results basically :)
     
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    Thank you alot +1 +1 +1 !
     
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    Ok, I messed up by finding out about HP washing quite late. Thanks to the calculator, I've got an idea of my HP goals. I now have a question (still a HP Wash noobie!). I currently have Base Int of 290 and I'm Level 143. I don't plan on washing till 30K but more along the lines of 20K and target level for that is 200, meaning I'll be with high Int till then.

    In my case, for each level here on (144-200), which steps of the HP wash process should i be focusing on? And which step would be the final one at Level 200 to ensure my char is back to normal Dex with 4 Base Int?

    Apologies in advance for the noob question.

    Level: instruction for each level up

    1. Level 1-2: add all AP to DEX
    2. Level 3: add 2 AP to DEX and add 3 AP to INT(20 DEX total)
    3. Level 4-60: add 5 AP to INT

    4. Level 61: add 3 AP to INT and 2 to MP. Use 2 AP Reset to remove 2 AP from MP and add to STR or DEX

    5. Level 62-138: add 5 AP into MP. Use 5 AP Reset to remove 5 AP from MP and add to STR or DEX

    6. HP Wash 708 times by using 1 AP Reset at a time to remove 1 AP from MP and add to HP

    (If the buttons for changing HP/MP are greyed out, you will have to use 1 AP Reset to move 1 AP from a main stat to HP to unlock the HP washing system. If you have to do this, remember when you are done washing to use 1 AP Reset to take 1 AP from HP and add it back to a main stat.
    7. Reset base int to 4
    8. All done!
     
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    Sorry for the very late reply, but what is your current HP and MP, and int from gear? I need to know that before I can calculate anything. If you just learned about hp washing and haven't been leveling up with a high base int for a while, it might just be better to start your NL over because you will simply not have enough level up AP to fix / might be possible but so expensive that it's just less time consuming overall to restart
     
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    Current:
    • HP = 8759
    • MP = 3294
    • Int = 397 (290 + 107) with 107 being my Int gear
    • MW10 at the moment as I'm focusing on AP reset costs
    Prefer not to restart since I'm too lazy. Level 143 Sair. Don't mind washing till I'm 170-180 or even 200 if need be.

    Thanks!!!
     
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    Do keep in mind that this thread is for figuring out the cheapest and most optimal build path and not a general hp washing calculating thread, but I'll go ahead and try to help you out as best I can. Also sairs gain the least out of all the classes from mp washing which makes it even tougher to salvage builds (no max hp increase skill and a heavy mp washing penalty where you forfeit 4 mana per mp wash rather than the usual 1 mana before calculating any gains).

    For 20k:
    Keep that base int until Level 192. You will have to MP wash 243 times which means MP wash every level from now to 192. You will need about 1020 AP resets in total to finish washing (resetting, int, mp washing, etc).

    30k:
    Just not possible with your current set-up.
     
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    You are a lifesaver! And yes, thanks for the disclaimer. Just to check, the MP washing from now till 192 will involve this step right:

    5. Level 62-138: add 5 AP into MP. Use 5 AP Reset to remove 5 AP from MP and add to STR or DEX

    P.S. I really like your calculator and hope you will be able to maintain it for the benefit of the community. It's simpler than Shiyui's calculator. :)
     
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    yea just do that step until 192
     
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    Hi @HikariNoPuri how is the progress on your HP Washing calculator coming along? I was thinking about making a BM and I was curious how much I would have to spend on AP Washes to get to 10k hp by 155.
     
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    download link please?
     
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    Sorry, but I am keeping this for myself for the time being. Thank you for your interest though!
     
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