Buccaneer Class Feedback

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    AND buff demo's damage? because demo's damage is so sad still even with permo demo ;-; I still did less dps on my 200 bucc vs my 16x hero and 1 demo = 4 brandish
     
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    Even if you can do a perma transformation demolition is still extremely slow and far weaker than other classes in terms of dps, so it wouldn't change much
    Also it will make barrage useless and change the whole playstyle of buccs to just be holding 1 button
     
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    Bucc right now is very good. it does not need any changes.
    Although the damage may be a little low compare to other class. Their skill Speed infusion balanced it out)
    the bucc buff from around 6 months ago is perfect, bucc is OP now.

    they need to buff other class such as MM and paladin.
     
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    everything u suggested is already buffed 6 months ago. except for 3.
    bucc is op now. it does not need more changes.
    but i agree with your #3. they should buff it <
     
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    A little low? Even an NL without SE can white a bucc in 1vs1 bosses. Right now the bucc's damage is closer to archmages than it is to NLs/Sairs (without atk pot I think archmage can even be stronger than bucc)
    The other classes that you said are also a lot better than bucc right now. The Paladin's total crash is usually better than the Bucc's SI/TL in things like Zak or HT, making paladins more useful there. Paladin is a lot better as a sed mule too. While in other bosses like Krex, BF etc where they are weak to certain elements paladin is so much stronger than bucc (by like 50% more) that it's not even a fair competition. MM is also both a lot stronger than bucc and helps the party a lot more too since SE is a mandatory buff in most parties and it's a lot more useful then the bucc's SI/TL (which are very situational, and often useless).
    I'm not even sure if the bucc buffs are even better than the Drk ones, the Drk's power crash is very good and can increase your damage in HT significantly while HB can always be helpful (unless you got 30k hp) and is great for sed and high hitting bosses like toad or shaolin (where sometimes people can't run without HB). If I had a choice between bringing a bucc or a Drk to a party (even if both are mules) I'd still pick the Drk.
    Meanwhile in terms of damage Drk is both a lot stronger than bucc and is also far better at hitting multiple enemies (since dragon strike is weak, slow and have a long delay)

    Honestly I think right now bucc is the worst class in the game with shadower being the second worst (due to all the bugs they have and the reliance on bombing)
     
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    still the buff can't break the game
    bucc players enjoy the tools, animations and freedom this class offers, I don't think people picking this class for how broken it is will enjoy it as we do already
    it's not perfect, lack of damage and skill delays hit us harder than we do, but still we enjoy the class, it's unique here in Royals so Fun is part of Bucc's core
     
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    you have to understand that bucc is not a solo class, it is support class as well ( the speed infusion skill benefits a lot people in party )
    you can not compare bucc to NL . every class is different , NL / corsair is attacker class .
    their role is different.
     
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    Except Speed Infusion isn't even good lol
    It doesn't benefit mages, NLs and BMs which are the most popular classes, and the only classes which really benefit much from it are Drks and MMs (and even for them it's only about a 15% damage buff which isn't that powerful to justify bringing a bucc instead of another stronger class). Many people got SI mules too which makes it useless to bring a bucc attacker.

    Honestly if the bucc damage get buffed significantly to match other classes I wouldn't mind making SI/TL self buffs instead, it's better to have no buffs but a good damage and get invited to all bosses (and actually contribute to them and even white some) instead of just being a mule with almost no damage and only get invited when people need your buff (which can be easily replaced by an SI mule that many people have)
     
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    Paladin's are better than Buccaneer's
     
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    I know you play a bucc but I’m so confused how you can say bucc is ok in terms of dps. Unless I’m wrong, bucc only got an HP boost, nothing else has changed including damage. If OP means weakest class in damage, I think you mean underpowered.

    Why is Buccaneer is support class? Se is so much better than si and BM and MMs still do more damage than buccs, who’s si benefits very little and none for the major attacking classes.

    Bucca damage is so sad, I don’t know how anyone thinks a 6.5k NL that can white a 12k bucc makes any sense. I am not asking for anywhere close to top DPS but even a small tune up of 20% of damage overall on attacking skills will still basically put us near bottom on DPS but at least do DPS closer to the other classes.
     
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    There were a few small buffs to bucc in new source (like reducing the transformation cooldown or 90% stance with energy charge, barrage/ds being a little faster) but overall the class actually got nerfed compared to how it was in old source because you can no longer do infinite transform and SI doesn't work on mages anymore.
     
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    how about double duration Oak Barrel? ikr people won't use/need it, but having an increased duration and maybe a defense buff on it will encourage ppl to use it sometimes
    you don't lvl it up that much but extra time will make it feel less like an innexistant or useless skill
     
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    nani?

    Nani???

    NANI?????????????????????


    I'm gonna take a wild assumption and guess you don't main or even own a buccaneer ~f12
     
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    i am level 175 bucc, played for 3 years. the changes 6 months ago made buccc all welcomed in boss parties because i know in fact it is balanced now
    you should see the struggle in bucc 3 years ago. People would refuse to add you to party even though they have space
    they call you SI mules, back then it was really bad , i even have 116 attack knuckle.

    bucc right now is quite fair and can be Op now. >But the attack potions should be able to stack with energy charge. this needs to be buffed<
     
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    Paladin's are regarded as a pretty bad class and even as flawed as they are they still outperform Buccaneer's when it comes to single target, multi-target, grinding, surviving, bossing, soloing. You're telling me Buccaneer's can't get a higher 1v1 damage to make up for their flaws?
     
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    bucc can out damage paladin easily . no chance for paladin
     
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    Anego? Black Crow? Zakum? Horntail? Bodyguard A, B, The Boss? KACCHU MUSHA? Bigfoot? Tod? Every single map in Temple of Time? Even on neutral bosses Buccaneer's SI advantage wouldn't make up for their lowered stance. I would be surprised to see a Buccaneer out perform Paladin's against most bosses and training maps.
     
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    how about letting stun condition work on bosses in a short time so that stun mastery will actually be a thing?
     
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    I'm interested to know where this idea came from. I dont think any of us suggested it, and personally do not think this will solve our dps problem (as others have mentioned there should be a damage buff to demolition as well as our other core skills).

    Right now most buccs (as far as i know) max out barrage first (or dragon strike), making demolition a late game skill. I think it may be better to take off cd from barrage instead of demolition to conform to most bucc's build path. Either way, i still believe that most of our skills need to be buffed in terms of damage.
     
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    Maybe not such that buccs become able to stun bosses, but apply some sort of debuff that makes us able to crit them (similar to paladin's threaten).
    Using stun mastery + SE improves our damage by a good chunk - I was critting for what I would normally do on stoppers.
    This way we can bring more relevance to stun skills in bossing, and increase the damage of barrage combos. of course alongside buffing demolition damage.
     
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